It finally followed me home, got my Mosin m44 today

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It finally followed me home today, got my Mosin M44. Its a 1943, made in Ishzvek, not in Tula like I originally thought. It has been rearsenaled, but its a very good looking piece of history. :) Im extremely happy with it, I want to go shoot it but

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Its raining today and not a very good one for the range :fire:

Im hoping it clears up tommrow so I can go and shoot this bad boy :D

Im so thinking a C&R would be worth it as I don't want this to get lonely and I would like to have a few different specimens of all the Mosins, but this ones a great start :D

Cheers all, Digicam will be obtained later today hopefully so I can share some pics. *edit, not the worlds greatest pics but there they are *

Jeremy

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Welcome to the club, my friend!
I love my M44, and my 91/30
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coolness :)

Coolness, yours is a nice looking one too my friend.

Sadly, I just got the rifle, I need to hunt down the strip clips, and all the other trappings for it etc.... I also need a soft bag like that, I guess Im head out in this muck again and see if I can at least find a bag for it, dont wanna cart it around in the cardboard box :D

The bag I can get locally, shoot I should have asked him while I was there if he had one that would have worked. As for all the other trappings just shy of waiting on the next gun show, any suggestions for online where I can obtain the sling, ammo pouches, strip clips etc.... ???

One other question, he was kind enough to send me home with a few rounds of golden bear ammo, is it pretty good stuff, he said this is what he test fires them with after checking the headspace with a guage, he said its non corrosive, and it says so on the box but from what Im reading of this 7.62x54 stuff, just because it says so doesnt mean it is, he told me he always cleans up right afterwards to just be safe, thats what Im gonna probably do anyhow as Im anal about cleaning out my 9mm right after a range trip, still just wondering about the Golden Bear stuff
 
The bag I got for 15 bucks at a local gun shop.
The stripper clips I got on ebay, and they don't work that great. Pretty picky about what ammo will actually work in them. The gun normally lives under the rear seat of my truck.
any suggestions for online where I can obtain the sling, ammo pouches, strip clips etc.... ???
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Ebay. Search for mosin-nagant
 
Congrats on the Mosin. I have a 91/30, but the M44's on my short list.

Any new production ammo should be non-corrosive. Golden Bear, Wolf, Barnaul, etc. are fine if they're new production.

It's the military surplus that's almost all corrosive. Even if it says it's not, don't trust it. If the brand is a country (Czechoslovakian, Hungarian, etc.) clean it when you're done. ;)

Corrosive ammo is really no big deal as long as you clean it promptly. Just run a couple of swabs soaked in Windex or water down the bore, wipe the bolt face, then clean normally. Search THR for corrosive ammo cleaning and prepare for hundreds and hundreds of preferred methods. :) For the savings, the extra cleaning is well worth it.
RT
 
Red Tornado,
Agreed on the corrosive ammo thing. I buy it in bulk, and shoot lots of it. Clean promptly, and you'll have zero problems.
 
cool, thanks for the tips guys

sweet

the century arms manual that came with it says to use window cleaner or an ammonia based solvent for the corrosive salts if applicable, then it says just to clean with regular solvents and patches like normal

Im going to doing an informal range report once I get to shoot this sucka

Cheers for now

Jeremy
 
added the pics at the top of the post

added the pics finally to the top of the post

camera blows, its all i could get a hold of

i tried taking shots of the reciever but the glare just was all blurry

maybe if i can get ahold of a better camera i can take pics of the reciever and such later on

anyhow

thanks for looking
 
no sir

no sir

its brown bear made in russia

soft point 203 grain, the gentleman let me take 10 rounds home, theres 5 in the gun now on safe and the other 5 i just threw into the pictures :D

the box says non corrosive and hes pretty sure it is because its new stuff, ill still probably swab a windex soaked patch or 2 down the bore to be 100 precent sure, as for the clipper strips, its not really needed to load all 5, i guess it would just speed the process up, not like im going to be in any kind of war anytime soon though :)

just range work, maybe some deer hunting if I get invited anytime soon, or if someone breaks down the door at 3 am :( but I hope it doesnt take more than 5 rounds to begin with, I got 12 + 1 of 9mm in the pistol, so this would be a BUG anyhow to that only if needbe
 
Congrats Jeremy, you made a good choice

Ebay will sell most of the goodies, I recommend you buy them all from one seller to save on shipping, and go easy on the stripper clips, they dont work too well. As far as a case, I use those remington "gun socks" from wal mart for my milsurps, they are about 6 bucks, and there isnt much on a mosin that you have to worry about banging up. Get that baby cleaned and sighted in and let us know how she shoots.
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just waiting on the weather

just waiting on the weather sir

probably gonna meet up with fellow member matthewvanitas this weekend if the weather clears up hopefully
 
Take a padded jacket with you or a shoulder pad. The M44 wil have a pretty stout recoil with the 203gr ammo. Milsurp ammo is widely available and pretty inexpensive. I buy some 7.62x54R from Outdoor Marksman: http://www.outdoormarksman.com/index.php?cPath=65_63_48 Some of the best milsurp is the Czech 147gr silvertip ammo. Albanian ammo is usually 180 or 203 gr. None of the milsurp is reloadable as it is Berdan primed.

There is soft point ammo from Winchester and Sellier & Beloit available for hunting but I would not expect a lot of accuracy from the M44 at ranges over 100-150 yards. Even the longer barreled 91/30 was never capable of extremely tight groups. The standard for the 91/30 rifle was around 6 to 8 inch groups at 200 meters which was the standard sighting in range. The average Russian soldier in WWII was a peasant with little or no education and they were not well trained in marksmanship. Their task was to shoot Nazi soldiers to get them out of a fight.


A lot of Mosins used during WWII shot steel cased ammo that was coated in lacquer. When the chamber got hot from firing many rounds, this lacquer transferred itself to the chamber walls. You may find that cases will be hard to eject especially after shooting the rifle enough to get the chamber hot.

You can get a lot of the dried-up lacquer out by disassembling the rifle and use a old bronze 12 gauge shotgun cleaning brush held in a battery-powered drill and some lacquer thinner. Warm the chamber by holding it near a heat lamp or space heater. Dip the brush in the lacquer thinner and insert it in the chamber and run the drill while moving the brush forwards and backwards in the chamber. Wipe the chamber and bore with patches and repeat a few times.

You mentioned having the rifle in the safe with ammo in it and "on safe". The safety on these rifles are difficult at best to operate. As you have probably found out by now, the rifle cocks when the bolt handle is raised upwards to open the bolt. Pulling the cocking knob back and turning it takes a fair amount of effort and it can slip when you release it. If you don't have a round in the chamber, you may be OK, but IMHO, this is not a rilfe to keep loaded all the time.
 
Nice find! Good looking rifle. You're gonna have fun with that. :D Makes me want to take my M44 out. I hadn't shot it in a long while.

Try some of the corrosive surplus. It's some of the cheapest good quality ammo available. The Century Arms manual is spot on about the Windex. Take a bottle to the range with you. When you are done shooting, pull the bolt out, stick the nozzle in the breach and flush it pretty good, Then spray the bolt head and wipe it off. Now when you get home, clean it like you would any other rifle. The ammonia isn't necessary, but won't hurt anything.


Any of the surplus ammo on the following page is good. I have some of all of it. The Czech and Polish are light ball of 147ish grain. The Hungarian Yellowtip is 172gr. heavy ball so will print a little higher and kick just a touch harder. However, I found it shoots pretty close to the same POI as S&B 180gr soft points.

For the price, just get one of each and see which one your gun likes better.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/copy_of_7_62x54R.html

Since we're sharing pics: :)

 
one thing i noticed is the dog collar eyelets on your guys guns has a metal insert whereas mine doesn't

it probably wont hurt anything just wondering why they are not on mine, maybe because in the rearsenal they were forgotten or they just fell out at somepoint?

i dunno, just making observations

damn rain is killing me, i so hope it clears up tommrow
 
Why worry about the weather? :confused:

Well, I'd wait myself, anyhow. Until it was snowing! :D Throw on my full-length Class A (or whatever they called 'em) Czech long coat, fuzzy hat, and blast away in 4"+ snow. Then go home, put on Enemy at the Gates, clean the gun (or not... :uhoh: ) and have a meal of bacon and potatoes finished off by vodka and onions. :)

For me, shooting is only part of the fun. 'Course, I take my SAR-1 these days :p
 
for those of us that reside in Texas, any time the mercury gets below the freezing mark, its too damned cold to do anything, just a few days ago it was 80 something and I was running around in a t shirt and shorts :D

Im just glad it was still in the shop today, when I walked outside I was like damnit, what a crappy day, I knew I would be buying it but I also knew I wouldn't be immediately able to go shoot it, grrrr

like rubbing salt in wounds :eek:
 
First, welcome to the family. Get the C&R quickly as these are addictive! Secondly, don't bother with stripper clip until you can actual Russian MARKED clips. Most on the market are not shaped correctly (as mentioned in another thread) and aren't worth bringing home. There has been a guy selling Russian clips on AuctionArms recently. I bought a ton from him and they work GREAT. BIG difference from the unmarked junk I usually find.

It's been touched on, but let me reiterate - go to the range at dusk and take as many friends as you can stuff in the car. Then have fun making the biggest fireballs this side of a Howitzer!!! :D :D :D :D

HTH,
Mike
 
so your saying night fire is a blast literally eh

yep yep, Im guessing some night fire is in order, theres a lighted range here in town that would be perfect, Im guessing we shall have to make a visit then

pardon my french, but when I drug my friend the first time to this range at night with my 9mm and he saw the fireball out of a such a short barrel he was exact words were

*holy ????* :)

Im guessing Im gonna get that same type reaction then :)
 
Thanks for posting pics. Now we need action photos!

I normally shoot Czech silvertip and like it. I tried some Wolf 200gr and my groups were better, but my shoulder hurt sooner. I think that BB 203 is going to feel like a real rifle going off. :D

Has anyone tried the Prvi Partizan from the Outdoormarksman page George posted? I've heard good things about PP, but never tried any. Don't they make the Wolf Gold line, or whatever they call their upscale ammo?
Sorry for thread drift.
RT
 
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