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I'm going to 'fess up.

I shot a hole through the wall in the house:what: Scared the &$#* outta me.
Lucky very lucky no one was hurt.
Well here goes, long time ago daddy told me :cuss:those automatics are dangerous, and I went years, 45 of them or there abouts before it happened.

Spent that Sat. at the range, spent that Sun. cleaning guns. Wife worked different shift and was in bed asleep, when I got up Mon. to go to work and like the lazy bum I am, I didn't put my guns up on Sun. after I finished cleaning them.
So I was in a hurry, and the gun I usually kept loaded was lying by the end of the couch (no kids). I didn't want the wife moving the loaded gun and I didn't want to wake her.
I couldn't remember if I had put one up the spout, and instead of popping the magazine and racking the slide, ole smarty here decides to pull the slide back and see if there is one in the chamber,(we got those loaded chamber things now) any way it wasn't but now ,if I let the slide go there will be.
So , now get this , I decide I can push the top round down far enough in the mag with my other thumb,so that the slide will not chamber it,and let the slide ease forward, flipped the saftey off , and pointed away from me at the wall , well do I got to go any farther?
She WOKE UP ! :banghead:
I :barf: ears still ringing from the round going off and her cussing me:cuss:.
We were living in a mobile home (mine ,thanks for one thing) in a mobile home park.
I look at this hole in the wall, I go out side ,guess what? There's a corresponding hole on the out side , missed the left rear tail light on my car by about 1" ricocheted off the pavement, so now here I go trying to find out if I killed someone, heart in my throat,:eek: kinda eye balling where this round could have went. Great Lord there's a hole in the Mobile home across the drive from me, but then a sigh of relief. It was a rental and not rented.:barf: again.

So I 'fessed up ! How 'bout yoose guys? Tell us your story !.

Don't want to turn this into a AD,ND, thing been there done that
 
Good read

...

And they say ya can't teach an old dog new tricks.. I wouldn't take that bet.

Glad ya fessed up, takes a man to do that, and I know ya learned what NOT to try ever again, and I'd bet it's back to basics (4) from now on until that day ya can't remember the combo of the safe anymore.. lol

Thanks for sharing, and I don't have a story to add, hope I never do


Ls
 
Very lucky. Never pull the trigger without the gun pointed in a safe direction. Not safe for you, safe for everybody! That saved my A** the time I did it. Scary stuff. I knew it was unloaded. That is how unloaded weapons kill people. Fortunately I pointed it a safe direction anyway. Good training saved a possible mishap.
 
My Brother wanted to borrow my 50cal muzzleloader, so I got er out of the gun cabinet, and was gonna pop a cap through it, to clear the cobwebs out of the bore. Haven't shot it in years, and forgot the mark on the ramrod to show it was loaded trick, went downstairs and preceded to kill a big bag of stuffed animals, the chair it was in, a mattress against the wall, and the wall it self.:eek: Stank like rotten eggs for a few days, but I'm thankfull I was aiming in a safe dirrection.:eek:
 
Mandirigma said:
failed press check roll?
Now that's funny! :D

You certainly are lucky no one was hurt. I must admit I've tried to take shortcuts before, but not quite like that. Glad you're alright. :)
 
It'll happen to anyone who plays with guns often enough for long enough. I've had it happen 3 times.

First was AD. Broken firing pin spring in a pistol I had just bought that caused a slam-fire. Hole in the kitchen floor and out of the basement ceiling, then into basement wall. No one hurt. AD

Second was sort of AD, sort of ND. Series 80 pistol that turned out to be minus the series 80 safety. I direct loaded the chamber with the loose round I had in my pocket at the end of the day and put a round down range when the slide went home. Surprised me, but no one hurt.

Third was AD. Had just cleaned my Beretta Stampede, oiled it heavily and loaded it. Went to lower the hammer and lost my grip. Hole in the carpet in the basement. Once again, no one hurt.

What did all three of these unintentional discharges have in common? No one was hurt, because the most important rule was followed. SAFE DIRECTION!!!
 
There was a time when old military issue 1911's were quite cheap, $30 to $50 bucks. A fellow who lived next door to me at the time bought a 1911 that had been badly used and abused. He purchased a box of ammo and brought his new toy home.

When he got home he loaded up the magazine, hit the slide release, and the gun went off when the slide shoved a round into the chamber. It scared the hell out of him, of course, and when he regained his senses, he started worrying about where the bullet had gone. He said he wasn't absolutely sure where it was pointed when the slide went home. He couldn't find a bullet hole anywhere in the room. The floor had thick shag carpet that was popular in the 60's so he felt around on his hands and knees searching for a hole but didn't find anything.

His thoughts then turned to why the thing had gone off so he unloaded it and quickly discovered that the firing pin had rusted in place with enough of the pin exposed to pop the primer.

He went to bed. When he got up the next morning and stepped into the shower, he discovered that there was very little water pressure. Immediately putting two and two together, he grabbed a towel and raced for the basement.

The basement was waist deep in water. His errant bullet and clipped the side of a water supply line.

The irony of the story is that this guy was the chief firearms instructor and a Sargent in the city Police Department. The moral of the story is obvious.
 
Wow, I think I'll go shoot my revolvers for a while.:what:

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Geez! Glad you're okay man. I had a negligent discharge last August and it scared the crap out of me. It certainly instilled in me the gravity of the four rules more than any training class ever could. I have two guns that I haven't shot yet, one of which I've had for a couple of months now. I don't even have ammo for them yet, but you know what? I always remove the magazine and check the chamber first anyway. There are all kinds of things I don't do anymore because of my experience. For one thing, I don't clean a gun when anyone else is around or when a radio/TV/other distraction is diverting my attention. Also, I don't dry fire or do malfunction drills with snap caps unless I've removed other ammo from the room and verified that EVERY SNAP CAP is indeed just that and not a live round.

I know you don't need a lecture as I'm sure this had quite an impression on you. Just be careful, man.
 
I live my life under the assumption that there are little trolls who rack the slide on my pistols while I'm showering, sleeping, etc. I check every time. So far those little buggers haven't garnered enough brute force to get it all the way back, but I check every time anyway.

These are not to be confused with the species of trolls that run out and catch your dropped guitar picks and run back to their hideout before you even look down.
 
Closet AD

We were moving out of a basement apartment and I returned for a last load, including a S&W CQB 45 I had left in the closet in a new Galco so the holster could stretch a bit (very snug Galco) I usually leave chamber empty unless expecting trouble, and can't rightly remember why there was one up the pipe, but there was. Took it off closet shelf, pulled it out of holster, Thank God pointed it across body but up and away and pulled DA trigger.
Ears ringing for a while from AD in closed space; hole in closet shelf, and thru plastic document case on shelf; managing to tatter my truck title & registration papers which I had gone to retrieve that day to sell.
Hole in closet ceiling, and into floor joist and stop. No hole in upstairs floor.
OHmigod...Yes, I'll come out of the closet.

Cheers, TF

Gotta love KY. They didn't bat an eye when presented with the title on transfer with obvious bullet hole in it...
 
It happens and when it does...scares the snuffing out of you!

Thankful no one was hurt. I too have had a ND but mine was with a revolver. I had just bought a new Colt King Cobra and was handling it, but I failed to empty the cylinder (VERY stupid on my part!!) when for some reason I cocked the hammer. I then knew I had a loaded gun with the hammer back so I proceeded to lower the hammer very carefully which of course involved pulling the trigger and letting the hammer down veryyyy slowly....guess what, it went off!! :uhoh: Scared the livin' crapola out of me.... I had been very careful, but the firing pin kissed the primer just enough that it went off... thankfully I had followed the other safety rules and the gun was pointed at the floor. So no one hurt except for my ego.

My uncle also had a ND and it was with a revolver also. He was dry firing his S&W revolver at his home. He told me he had checked it to make sure it was unloaded before he started...but of course he missed one. He was aiming at his door knob and pulled the trigger..... BANG!!!! :banghead: Again thankfully no one was hurt, but he had failed to follow the basic safety rule and it wasn't aimed in a safe direction, but someone sure could have been. He told me later that he had usually used his big toe as a dry firing target...

My point is that ND's and AD's can happen with revolvers also, I agree in both of these cases it was negligence on my part and my uncles part. But it can still happen, my uncle had been handling and shooting guns for longer then I had been alive when his ND happened. I know I learned my lesson and I no longer handle loaded guns of any type unless I am hunting or at the shooting range. When I do need to handle my guns, for cleaning or whatever purpose... I make double sure that the gun is unloaded and follow all the safe handling rules.
 
Ok my dummy move turn.

I was sitting around bored decided to practice bringing my new rifle up and looking through the scope. I had opened the bolt (part way) to check clear.

Didnt realize that there had been some failsafes (black tip hard to see on partial opened bolt)left in the magazine.

I had been looking at some cows out in the pasture. Lucky for me I never pulled the trigger when it was aimed at them (didn't have room in the freezer) but then I sat down and pulled the trigger nothing guess this wasn't what I wanted cause I cycled the bolt a couple more time partial then guess I made a full cycle cause all I could hear was RINGING

Shoot a hole through the lower side of my house ran out side and there was red everywhere. I shoot a can of red spray paint that was setting on a board on the ground and exploded.

Never did get to completely patch the hole. Wife had me put clear silicone in it so It's a constaint reminder.

I think it is so she can say look see what my husband did.

After that I went through every gun in the house other than our pistols and made sure that all of them where unloaded.

After that if I do any dry fire I first push on the follower and put a pinky finger in the chamber.
 
so far i have been lucky. it's bound to happen though. happens to the best of us. a couple of summers ago i was at a trap shoot that was put on by the local high school and one of the young shooters had an "incident". he was up at the line and was shooting a single shot 16. as he was getting ready he pulled the hammer and either it slipped or he just got excited and shot the back of the trap house. good thing he was pointing down range. in a quick moment of that poor kid is getting ready to bawl his eyes out and quit shooting, i stepped up and loudly anounced that ladies and gentlemen, this is one of the reasons that our young shooters need to be taught safe gun handleing because at any time an "incident" can happen. i would like you all to give this young man a round of applause for putting on this demo on safe gun handleing. i thanked him for his partipation in the demo and got everybody back to shooting. after the shoot the young man and his father walked up to me and asked me why i did that, i told them that everyone makes a mistake sooner or later. the good thing was his mistake happened "safely". i didnt want everyone to give this kid a hard time amd make him out to be unsafe. it worked. people were asking him when we got together and planned it and him, his father and i are the only ones that know the truth. but he still shoots and is alot more careful now.
 
My cousin is a Sgt. with a nearby PD. For some reason he decided to multi-task and clean his Glock while taking a dump. All 3 kids and the wife were at home. The round went through the bathroom wall, into the kitchen, through the fridge, oven and entire row of cabinets, through the dishwasher at the other end and into a garage stud. Nobody was hurt. Of course he didn't tell anyone about it, but the wife shared the story with every visitor to the house for the next year or so. I try to keep that scenario in mind everytime I clean one of mine.
 
I've got to pass this one on! An aquaintence John,was a gunsmith at a local pawn shop, he lived in a rural area and commuted to work daily with his son, who worked as a clerk at the same shop.
He carried a small Beretta .25 acp Jetfire as he had to open and close the shop and carried quite a bit of money daily.
His wife casually asked one day about his .25 and showed interest in wanting one for personal protection.
She saw that is was a smaller pistol and being small herself thought it may be just what she needed.
John bought one for her and told her that Sunday would be a good time for her to learn how to operate the Jetfire.
So the next Sunday over coffee at the kitchen table John brought the new pistol to the table, and also got his, this was going to be a show and tell demo on how to operate her new pistol. So he goes through the operation manual while she has her pistol and is mimicing John.
Proceeding on he says now what ever you do DON'T do this ,and KAPOW shoots a hole through the kitchen table and into the floor.
He had one in the barrel and didn't tip it up to check!
He said her eyes were the size of saucers.
She picked up her pistol checked it to see if it was safe,put it back in the box and pushed it over to him and told him to take it back!
 
OK, I'll fess up. I was getting ready to run some dry fire drills with my Sig 232 which was my carry piece at the time. I removed the mag and racked the slide, but it was dark in the room and I thought I saw the round in the chamber eject, but apparently my hand had been partially covering the ejection port so all I really did was force the round back into the chamber. Proceeded to point the gun at the TV and promptly killed it.

Scared the s*** out of me. Luckily it didn't go through the TV, but my Lab that had been sleeping on the couch next to me yelped and left a load on the floor while exciting at high speed. :eek:

On the up side, I now have a new 40" LCD flat screen TV. I think my wife was suspicious if this was really an ND or not. :D
 
Sooner or later, almost everyone has an AD. If you are fortunate, it's a gun defect and you are in the range and the gun is pointed safely down range. Had that happen about a year ago. I'm thinking about using empty chamber indicators as a standard procedure to and from the range. It's just too easy to screw up.
 
I've had two incedents, both with .22's. First one was with my very first gun I had ever bought myself, a Ruger 10/22, when I was 18. I had removed the magazine, but I didn't check the chamber. Then for some reason, I'm not really sure why, I pulled the trigger, POW! It was pointed towards the floor, which was concrete underneath a carpet, while I was sitting in a chair. The bullet ricocheted off the concrete floor, went through my bedroom door, and then out my bedroom window! Luckily, no one was injured.

The second one was with a .22 target pistol that had a very light trigger. I was out at the range shooting it when I knocked something off the bench, I think it was a box of ammo, it's been awhile. Instead of placing the pistol on safe and setting it down on the bench, I kept the pistol in my hand, safety off, still loaded, and reached for the dropped object. I grabbed the object and at the same time the pistol went off. Luckily it was still pointed down range, so no one even noticed but me.

Both those incedents were clearly the result of my own stupidity. They both could have easily been prevented with a little thought and caution. I am much more careful now though.
 
My son and I were shooting in an indoor range many years ago. I saw a young man behind us at a table wiping down his Beretta 9mm. My son had begun to fire when we heard the young man's handgun go off. You see, he had removed the magizine, thought he had cleared the chamber, and dry fired it into the trash can.

Have you ever had that chill run up your back, and just wouldn't stop?
 
I had my own house but I was still single so it was probably 25 years ago. Sitting on the edge of my bed all in love with the Marlin 39A I just scored from a buddy. Levered one into the chamber and thumb slipped of the hammer while I was letting it down. Hole in wall above closet door, hole in closet ceiling. The round did not penetrate the roof.

It was just a .22 but it was the loudest noise I have ever heard in my life before or since. I still have the 39A and I remember that ringing every time I handle it.
 
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