JAPANESE schools arming teachers to protect their students

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They aren't giving them guns, but many schoolteachers in Japan are getting trained to use medieval pole arms to defend their charges with the express approval of the police.

http://www.asahi.com/english/lifestyle/TKY200402210158.html

The buzzers that story mentioned that the children wear around their necks are "junior rape alarms". A bit more explanation can be found here.

http://www.e-budo.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=25066


Another story with more info on one of the instructors.

http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/waiwai/0402/0212medieval.html
 
I guess I should add a copy of the article.

Among the cheerful mess of backpacks and coats hanging in classrooms at Kuroyama Elementary School in Osaka's Miharacho leans a long staff with a U-shaped tip. Called a sasumata, it is modeled after a police weapon dating back to the Edo Period (1603-1867).

The Osaka school is one of many elementary schools across the nation that purchased sasumata after an intruder stormed into a fifth-grade classroom and attacked children with a knife at Kyoto's Uji Elementary School last December.

Used properly, sasumata can either keep an assailant at a distance while immobilizing his arms and torso or knock him to the ground.

``We asked the police for suggestions on how to protect our kids and they said sasumata are the best nonlethal weapons. They can quickly put distance between you and the attacker,'' said Takahiko Azuma of Miharacho school board.

Aluminum sasumata, priced from 10,000 to 15,000 yen, are widely available on the Internet and from companies selling self-defense items, including Fushimi Co. in Shizuoka.

In the two weeks following the Uji attack, Fushimi sold more sasumata to schools than the company normally sells in a year.

``The jump in sales was unexpected. I was surprised the terrible incident in Uji could have such an affect on my business,'' said owner Jyunsaku Fushimi. ``We never dreamed of selling sasumata to elementary schools.''

Last year, Fushimi produced 40 sasumata for financial institutions, which keep the weapons near bank vaults, and police. He sold 60 to schools in December and 70 more in January.

The National Police Agency reported last month there were 22 intrusions at elementary schools nationwide in 2003.

For school administrators scrambling for ways to protect children, it made sense to leaf through the pages of history for ideas to deal with the escalating crime rate, school board member Azuma said.

Sasumata, a defensive weapon used by feudal police, remain useful only because guns are strictly controlled in Japan and most attackers are armed with knives.

Some schools, such as Senju Elementary School in Tokyo's Adachi Ward, are training teachers on how to use plastic shields in tandem with sasumata.

``We recommend using anything-even brooms-to keep a safe distance between you and the attacker. We use sasumata in most police stations because it's an effective way to buy time before help arrives,'' said Akio Nagashima, head of Tokyo's Metropolitan Police Department. Nagashima spoke at a national conference on school safety held at Senju Elementary School in February.

Charging at an ``intruder'' with the determination of modern-day samurai, the teachers-armed with sasumata, helmets and plastic shields-nailed him to the ground during a drill at the conference. It was followed by a head count of students each holding buzzers connected to the school's administrative office.

Instead of locking the gates or fencing off the school, Senju Elementary School used a significant portion of its annual budget last month to arm itself. About a third of all elementary schools in Adachi Ward followed suit.

``It would be easy to just close the school off, but that would mean closing the children in, which could be detrimental in the case of emergencies like earthquakes,'' said Masaki Hayashi, principal of Senju Elementary School. The school bought two sasumata, which are assigned to teachers trained to ward off attacks. In addition, large plastic shields, which cost about 12,000 yen each, sit near the blackboard in each class.(IHT/Asahi: February 21,2004) (02/21)
 
Wow!
Too bad they don't instruct teachers in the art of edged weapon combat.
A shoto or two in the teacher's desk could be handy.:D
Is another name in english for sasumata, "man-catcher"?
 
Why not give the students those wooden training swords (bokken?) Can you imagine what it would feel like to have 10-15 young boys wacking you with those as hard as they can?
 
Why is this happening?

Current problem of goons attacking children?

Intelligence that goons will attack?

Some articles just scream for answers.

Don't know about japan but OBL's chief whup Zyman Zawaheri (?sp) specifically claimed the right to kill 4 million American children.
 
Interesting article.

Here's a page with numerous pictures of some gentleman demonstrating the usage of the sasumata.

A couple of pics from that site -


sasumata1.jpg


sasumata6.jpg


sasumata7.jpg
 
Hmmm . . . baseball bats are not weapons, they are sporting goods. I'll take a baseball bat against a knife-armed attacker over one of these sasumata any day.

And I agree with cordex - a farm implement like a pitchfork would work, too. ;)
 
Too bad they don’t instruct teachers in the art of edged weapon combat. A shoto or two in the teacher’s desk could be handy.

Warning: Thread Hijack!

Since the G. W. Bush administration lacks the political and moral will to effectively enforce the Second Amendment with regards to firearms and airline pilots, perhaps the pilots could at least be given swords. The gladius may be a design over 2,000 years old, but it could be quite useful at keeping terrorists and other riffraff out of the cockpit. :D

~G. Fink
 
Edo Period Police in Japan...

Were armed with a number of different types of non edged weapons.

Edged weapons were reserved to the Samurai alone, and the cops were not Samurai. Nonetheless, even back then, criminals armed themselves as they saw fit, without reference to the law, leaving the police at a disadvantage.

Therefore, a number of non sword/edged weapons were developed with sword armed adversaries in mind.

Interesting twist on our own 3 level system, eh?
 
Remember the scene in Indiana Jones where the ninja confronts our hero? Indie merely pulls out his gun and gives his foe a dose of lead poisoning. Never bring a knife, sword, stick or whatever to a gunfight. They acknowledge there is some fear of kids being attacked so they arm their teachers, but lest they have an unfair advantage on the poor perps or maybe even hurt or kill them don't arm the teachers with anything that has definite stopping power. This all seems so ludicrous. If you're going to arm them with something, then arm them with something that will prevent a violent and mentally unstable person from overpowering a teacher armed with only a stick.
 
If you're going to arm them with something, then arm them with something that will prevent a violent and mentally unstable person from overpowering a teacher armed with only a stick.
In all fairness, keep in mind that it is the school administrators doing the arming here, and they can't give out guns even if they want to. I'm not sure about the exact wording, but I'm pretty sure private ownership of (functional) firearms is totally forbidden in Japan. (Which isn't something school administrators can do anything about quickly.)
 
Nan desu ka!*

What is up with the attacks on schools? It seems to be a global phenomenon of late, whether by deranged students or adult maniacs. I'd love to see a bunch of sociologists put their heads together and find some reasons for all this...



*"I don't understand," as far as my pidgin Japanese goes.
 
It is technically possible to own firearms in Japan, but it is easier to get a CCW in San Francisco. I have heard rumors to the effect it is also possible to get a CCW permit in Japan I think it had to be approved by the Emperor or something. I am not sure how accurate that is since to the best of my knowledge the Emperor of Japan serves in an entirely symbolic role with no function whatsoever in the Japanese .gov.

As for the effectiveness of Sasumata against a knife wielding attacker... I personally wouldn't feel unarmed with one. However I have a bit of training in the use of staff weapons and am fairly comfortable with them.
 
This looks like quite a viable solution for the problem observed in the environment in question. Plus that you gotta love the attitude: this is what I call educators taking their responsibility for their charges seriously!

I've heard that the kids learn their stuff in those schools too...
 
I've heard that the kids learn their stuff in those schools too
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I could write reams on Japanese culture and education, my wife being one...

Let me put it this way...she read, writes and speakes English fluently although accented...she also speaks/read/writes modern Japanese and can read ancient Japanese as far back as Edo period....she also reads Chinese...I think she has memorized 6,000 Kanji...

Shes just a mere HS grad....as she says after reading articles about US test scores dropping...

"why american student not study hard I dont understand this"

I dunno


WildsamuraiAlaska
 
Nan desu ka!*

*"I don't understand," as far as my pidgin Japanese goes.

That would be better translated as "What is it?" or "What the heck is this?" Nihongo for "I don't understand" is "Wakarima????a."


Hmmm. Apparently the naughty language filter doesn't like the four letters that come between the two a's in the above word and convert them to question marks. The letters are s, followed by h, followed by i followed by t. Nothing scatological about it in this case. :rolleyes: (granted, nothing firearms about it in this case either ... ;)
 
I thought wakarimasen translated into "I don't understand". I could be wrong though.

Hey WildAlaska, could you ask your wife what the real phrase/word is? Please.

I have to agree that the Japanese education system shows remarkable results. The Japanese folks I have met have always been pretty smart.

In education the Japanese seem to be ahead of us. Of course there are other areas where we are leaps and bounds ahead of them so I suppose everything works out. The Japanese are some of our best allies right now. They have sent troops to help in Iraq after having to almost rewrite their constitution to do it. They are cool with me.

To bring this back to guns, does anyone know what sort of loopholes you have to jump through to own a firearm in Japan?
 
I thought wakarimasen translated into "I don't understand". I could be wrong though.

*sigh* You're right. Brain fart. Wakarimasen is "I don't understand." "Wakarimas" or "Wakarimas h i t a" (spaces added to get past dirty-word-filter) are both variants of "I understand."

Sorry about that. It's been 18 years since I lived in Japan and my Japanese was never very good anyway. Which wasn't much of an issue since most everyone I knew wanted to practice their English on a native speaker. Since their bad English was generally much better than my truly awful Japanese it was easy to be lazy ...

Oh, and a quick Google search on gun laws in Japan turned up this interesting tidbit.
 
In education the Japanese seem to be ahead of us.

Er.....I'd not be in too much of a hurry to follow that model.

-Suicide rates are off the scale
-Reports of teachers BEATING STUDENTS TO DEATH crop up about as frequently as mass school yard shootings in the US (that is, 0 - 4 a year)
-There are reports of maternal incest as "motivation" for students to do well
-And once they make it past high school, universities there are a complete joke.

With respect to weapons laws, the Japanese treat guns and swords more or less the same, but you've basically got a better chance at getting a carry permit in NJ (600 exist in population of 8.2 milltion) than getting a gun owner's permit in Japan.

While I admire the many positive aspects of Japanese culture, it's good to be aware of the downside. While the cage is friendly, smooth and gilded, make no mistake, it is a cage.

The view that Japanese society is a regimented, collectivist society, and a police state is instructive, to a certain degree.

Fortunately, we "gaijin" (rough translation: stinking barbarians) are given passes on most of that stuff, as we're not expected to have any understanding of it.


-geekWithA.45, aka gaijinSAN.
 
Geek love to debate you about japanese society, but this aint the Board for it....

Anyway, beleive it or not, we are about to start marketing rifles in Japan...we have already sold optics and the like to various Japanese hunters who stop in our shop...

Next time some gun controller tells ya guns are banned in japan, let em know that their laws are not as good as the US, but hell maybe the same as canada ;)

PS gaijin means foreigner...you might be thinking of gwailo, the chinese word which means long nosed barbarian.

WilddebujijiAlaska (that means fat old man, swmbos favorite words of endearment towards yours truly)
 
Hunting

...With respect to weapons laws, the Japanese treat guns and swords more or less the same, but you've basically got a better chance at getting a carry permit in NJ (600 exist in population of 8.2 milltion) than getting a gun owner's permit in Japan...

Actually, not true. Japanese have to jump through hoops, but anyone can, take a course, take the test, and get a permit. Mostly for shotguns, though I knew a few people who hunted with big air guns, even an air powered shotgun! It is just that Japan is a very urban society, so not many do. Still, I see spent shotgun shells every time I go jogging along the local river. I have found quite a lot of different spent shells here and there. Hunting is rather popular in rural areas, for deer, wild hogs, and fowl. In the town I live in there is a skeet range, and every now and then I see advertisments for a match.

I have a friend with a garden that is always having trouble with wild monkeys raiding. I keep telling her to just shoot them. She can't, because the local animal welfare people go crazy when farmers shoot the cute little monkeys. But she says her neighbor does shoot into the air over their heads to scare them away.

But back to the original post. It is getting real scary for my kids here. There have been a number of deadly attacks by deranged adults against little kids in school, and lots of strange stuff by kids too. Every few weeks we get a notice from the local school detailing where perverts have been reported lurking, exposing themselves, asking little girls to lift their skirts, all kinds of sick stuff, right here in the town where I live. I would love to catch one of these guys in the act!
 
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