Join the ACLU.

[MASTEROFMALICE]

Everyone has their price and there is absoluely no reason why the ACLU couldn't be bought and sold just like any other special interest group.

Someone mentioned they had 500,00 members? Not everyone votes. A voting majority could be only 100,000 members. Place in only 150,000 NRA-type voters and you now have the needed votes to replace the upper echelon with people who see the tings the way we do.

What would ultimately happen is the original scumbags who are ACLU members now would freak out and bail and the ACLU would simply become another Second Amendment group.

The members who bailed would simply reform into a group under a new name but functionally like their old ACLU. Then all of us would have to shift with them. I figure it would keep them disoriented by having to bail and reform every couple of years, enough so that they'd never be able to get anything meaningful done.

By having so many more members the NRA could, in fact, take over the ACLU and render it useless.

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

By having so many more members the NRA could, in fact, take over the ACLU and render it useless.

Uh, I'm pretty sure that the original poster's point, as well as those who support the infiltration idea, is to get the ACLU on board supporting the 2A as an individual right, not to shut down their work on other civil rights. I'm not quite sure why you think taking down the ACLU would be, or even should be, on the NRA's agenda. They seem to be occupied with other things, like the 2A. I think I'd much rather have the NRA and other gun rights groups focused on gun rights instead of playing games trying to run members out of the ACLU.

 

[tmajors]

ACLU sees Freedom of Speech as absolute and any consequences to things you say as denial of Freedom of Speech. ACLU sees Freedom OF Religion as Freedom FROM Religion. ACLU sees the Right to Keep and Bear Arms as a collective government right, not as an individual right. ACLU sees the right of privacy as a federal personal right and not as a right defined as unenumerated therefor a right reserved to the States to decide. ACLU sees Freedom of Expression buried in the Freedom of Speech. ACLU says loony nutjobs have more right to speak then conservative talk show hosts. ACLU says Christmas is not allowed on the public square, yet we have to spend money to make foot baths in public restrooms. ACLU says that describing a suspect is fine, but not if it includes his skin color (that is racist) even if the skin color is kind of an important factor in describing a suspect. I could go on and on.

That wall of words is why I will NEVER join or support the ACLU.

www.stoptheaclu.com

 

[Citroen]

Same goes for the AARP

Well said, tmajors. As far as I am concerned, support for the 2nd Amendment as clearly intended by the Framers of the Constitution, is a litmus test for my membership in ANY organization.

I dropped my membership in the AARP over their anti self defense stance and will drop my membership in any other organization that fails to recognize that devine right.

Want to fight for civil rights? Join the ACRU - they support all 10.

John
Charlotte, NC

 

[Autolycus]

ACLU Defending Conservatives.

The ACLU does a lot of good work. Many here disagree with them simply because they defend groups that are not popular. One poster was angry that they defend Muslims. That is shameful.

I myself will join the ACLU before I join the NRA as the ACLU defends the majority of rights. I seem to remember them helping get a kids picture in the yearbook after it was denied due to it having his trap gun in it.

But hey... any chance we get to make fun of gays, muslims, minorities, leftists, communists, and socialists is a good time to do it.

 

[Autolycus]

Muslim Footbath and why one ACLU member says that it is constitutional.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

The ACLU defends NO rights. The ACLU only exists to stifle religious (primarily christian)liberty. They have used arguements for decades that do not exist within the United States Constitution. They use intimidation and threats of lawsuits to cower municipalities into abandoning traditional acknowledgements of religious holidays. Most counties/municpalities do not have the means or will to stand up against threatened litigation and simply back away. If judges held the ACLU to a strict reading of the Constitution and not some obscure interpretation,the ACLU would wither and die. We need tort reform and loser pays when dealing with lawsuits brought by groups like the ACLU ,take it to trial,no settleing. The idea that the ACLU defends civil liberties is laughable,they are the biggest threat to it(other than Congress,that is).

 

[hobgob]

Quite honestly i am glad that the aclu is around, and i am also glad that the NRA is around. now if only america and its leaders would stick to our constitution and recognize our bill of rights then this argument wouldnt be taking place. the point is that we need the aclu and the aclu will need the nra because a country is only as strong as its citizens. so if we want a strong citizenry we need an informed and armed citizenry. at least the smart people should be armed anyway!

 

[Justin]

This has really gone beyond realistic expectations of what the activism forum is about.