Judge refuses to block California from releasing gun owners’ personal info

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Just another example of how gun owners are seen as second class citizens by the government. Presumption of innocence? Doesn't apply to you. No ex post facto laws? Doesn't apply to you. Privacy? Doesn't apply to you.

HIPPA aside, can you imagine the outcry if the government released the personal data of women who had had abortions?
 
I do live in Ca and you’re absolutely correct. :(

This used to be a wonderful place for hunting, gun makers, shooting, etc. .

Not anymore…. not even close.

Stay safe..

I agree, I grew up in Southern California. Was a teenager in the late 60s and early 70s. Had a great time surfing, salt water fishing, quail, dove and duck hunting. Left in the late 90s after politics and overcrowding made it no longer enjoyable.
 
What we're currently seeing in CA and other gun-unfriendly states is the nibbling away at the rights of gun owners, slow and steady. Since the politicians can't outlaw gun ownership, they will attempt to make owning guns as onerous as possible. This is a process that is well known to the various groups dedicated to protecting our 2A rights. I believe this is a good reason to support those groups because they understand how the antis work.
 
Just another example of how gun owners are seen as second class citizens by the government. Presumption of innocence? Doesn't apply to you. No ex post facto laws? Doesn't apply to you. Privacy? Doesn't apply to you.

HIPPA aside, can you imagine the outcry if the government released the personal data of women who had had abortions?
Well, to be really precise here, CA made it law that you had to give all sorts of personal info to the State first.
To my knowledge they made no assertions about the privacy of that information.
And, they did require public publishing of statements of statistical analysis of the data collected.

So, the "legal" presumption here is that the State volunteered information in its possession to (presumably) responsible researchers, for research purposes only.
And, in our modern and justifiably cynical world, we can be irked about the amount of presumption that preceding sentence requires.

This also applied to HIPPA. HIPPA is only a restriction upon your doctor. I can't (your employer, neighbor, a person in Ulang Bator) call your doctor and get your medical details. That's why you have to sign a release in your doctor's office to release information. Now, the Health Department can insist.

It's all ugly. You want to be law-abiding, you have to follow the rules. Now, there is a legitimate question of why make laws so onerous that violating them is easier than obeying them. But, that's not a question for THR.
 
An interesting irony about this is that many judges have their personal info (address, etc.) protected from release in a variety of ways. Just a typical elite that supports 2 different standards, one for themselves, another for the rest of us.
 
Huh? What dose this have to do with HIPPA? Is there something about the information being provided I am missing? Because I am pretty sure HIPPA restricts covered parties from releasing your health information to 3rd parties without consent…

It's all about personal information privacy.
 
It's all about personal information privacy.
Huh? I mean there may be some law in California like that but that’s not what HIPPA is. HIPPA just covers disclosures of medical records.

more specifically it prevents covered parties (your doctor, insurance company, ect…) for giving your medical records out to 3rd parties without consent. But it doesn’t prevent them from sharing it with anyone at all, they can still share it in certain circumstances, and it doesn’t stop people who are not covered parties from sharing the information if they get access to it.

so HIPPA wouldn’t apply here
#1 because we are not talking about medical records
#2 because law enforcement agency’s are not covered parties bound by HIPPA
#3 even if #1 & #2 were weren’t so the legislature has the power to decide when medical information can be shared under HIPPA and this law was passed by the state legislature so it would be allowed anyways.


Like I agree this is a bad thing that shouldn’t happen but it really has absolutely nothing to do with HIPPA.
 
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