just put on layaway a new marlin 336y 30-30 so is the 30-30 still bein used for deer and hogs today?

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so here it is soon coming as I traded in a couple safe queens for a compact light rifle in my favorite caliber the old versatile 30-30! so guys anyone have this marlin youth 30-30 and did it perform well for you? plus is the 30-30 dead or still being used today??
 
Most people don’t know/understand just how good it still is.

Don’t fall into the trap of thinking of only the 100yd zero, and subsequent bullet drop at longer ranges.
Sight in with a +3” at 100yds, and you’ll be zero at 170yds and -4” at 200yds.
So, think point and shoot to 200yds! Only 12” down at 300yds, which is a LONG shot in most places. After 120+yrs, most Mfg’s know how to make a good expanding bullet.
The 150gr bullet is faster, with a little less drop, but the 170’s tend to be a little more accurate in most guns, and penetrate better.

Final analysis is which is more accurate from YOUR GUN.

The latest fad is the Hornady 160gr LeverEvolution ammo. It’s good, but not the only way to go. The cheapest Federal and Remington loads are still really good. Pick your load, buy a bunch, and SHOOT EM !
It’s shot placement that kills!
I’ve “only” got 3 .30/30’s at present!
Two wear reciever sights, and all three are sighted for a particular load.
Can’t bring myself to part with either.
 
I love the 30-30 and the Marlin 336.I have several Marlin 336 rifles, a pre-safety Texan, a Deluxe and a new 336SS only a few months old. I love my older Marlins, but, despite the popular internet bashing, both of my new Marlins are better shooters, just as nice in their own way and more reliable cycling. And they do not rust being stainless.

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Guide Gun (SBL) above back from Alaska protection duty. First day at the range with the 336SS below, new rifle, new scope, a little Kansas wind:

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All of my rifles, especially the new 336SS, like my home loads of 34 grains of Lever Revolution powder in Winchester brass (or Starline) and CCI LR primer and the 160 grain Hornady FTX bullet and the 35 grains of Lever Revolution powder and CCI LR primer and the 170 grain Sierra:

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Really nice innards:

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Both my new Marlins are 2016 pieces. The SBL needed some polishing of the gate, the 336 was good to go. But I always, always break a new gun down fully and inspect, polish as needed, adjust to suit me and then properly lubricate and prep for duty.

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30-30 is still my favorite deer rifle. It’s all the power one needs for deer. Mine gets used every season and some target time in between.
All my longest shots have been with my Winchester 94... all kills. One at 340 and sone at 370 yards.. never had one get lost. I sometimes take the 30-06 out but whenever I do I end up shooting at under 100... go figure

I honestly don’t understand why the 30-30 gets looking down upon in the modern world of cartridges... last fall at a local shooting event I threw the long range guys into a tizzy when I pulled out my Winchester with open sights and started ringing the 10” gong at 330 yards...
Edit: most of my hunting shots are at 50-100 yards... and that’s what I’d recommend to others; I just wanted to point out the the round is CAPABLE of much more.
 
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Me! I love the .30/30 and still hunt with mine when calling bears or hunting in timber. I haven't got a bear yet with it, it's a work in progress. I have taken many whitetail with the .30/30 when I lived in TX.
 
30 30 is old and primitive. You need to step up to either of my ultra modern favorites such as the 30/06 (1906), or, the 250 Savage (1915). LOL.
Still a great cartridge for reasons already posted. I cannot understand why any one would think it is not adequate for deer , bear,hogs, and even larger stuff at close range. With the 30-30 Winchester made the old black powder cartridges instantly obsolete. It shot flatter, penetrated better, didn't foul near as bad , and had far less recoil.
 
The .30-30 fires a heavier bullet with more muzzle energy than the 7.62x39mm which as been heavily promoted as adequate for boar and deer.

As for deer rifle models, I am prejudiced toward the Marlin 336 with a scope and Williams peep as backup irons.

The 336Y youth model is a nice carbine, and at the end of the day would probably carry better than my larger 336W. From what I have heard, they shoot about the same.
 
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In reference to your new rifle, I have little experence them, however I have 30 + years with my 3 digit 1949 Marlin 30-30. Having taken deer elk antelope coyotes and any other varmimt with it, I can absolutly say the 30-30 is a proven capable cartridge. Most guys I see tend to like 150-170 grain bullets, thats well and good, I have found that the Speer 130 heavily charged will result in a much higher muzzle velocity= less bullet drop, this accompanied by a GOOD set of reciever sights or optics positivly shrugs off anyones opinion that the 30WCF is only good for 200 or so yards.
 
so here it is soon coming as I traded in a couple safe queens for a compact light rifle in my favorite caliber the old versatile 30-30! so guys anyone have this marlin youth 30-30 and did it perform well for you? plus is the 30-30 dead or still being used today??

Be Advised that It has been reported that the 30-30 will no longer kill deer or hogs and you must upgrade to the new .300 WhizBang.
 
"plus is the 30-30 dead or still being used today??"

Totally useless. I understand the deer and hog federations have signed a pact with the gun companies stating that they will not die unless hit with a cartridge no older than 2 years and that has had positive reviews from the best magazines gun company's money can buy.
 
50-60 years ago my family operated a truck farm in the Northeast. They never went out to a field without someone carrying a 30-30 lever action rifle. Worked just fine back then I don't see why it won't now.
 
The new whizbangs aren't all in 30 caliber. The wife just pulled the trigger (so to speak) on Weatherby Camilla in 6.5 Creedmoor . I am so ashamed. A cartridge less than 50 years old just doesn't have proven track record IMHO. May have to buy a 30 30 to offset her purchase.
 
I believe there was a lion hunter named White ( actually I know, just not sure of the name) who considered the 94 carbine in 30-30 the ultimate lion gun. He killed a couple hundred with one, then he was told it wasn't powerful enough for lions......so he stopped using it. I seem to remember something about it's not how big or fast the bullet is....but where you put it.....that counts.
 
Bought a box of factory ammo today. Need to test fire the m94 before passing it on to my son. Quit reloading 30-30 over 20 years ago.

It was my dads rifle, handed down to me in the 1960s.
Killed my first deer with it at age 12. Had to shoot right handed, normally a lefty, because where the buck appeared. Aimed for the chest, bullet hit the spine in the neck. Still a dead deer.
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I've been hunting since the early 1970's. I've ran across exactly 1 hunter in all of those years actually hunting with a 30-30. Now everyone I know owns at least one, but no one actually hunts with them around here.

Yes, they kill stuff just as dead as they did in 1895, but so will a spear. Both the 6.5X55 and 7X57 predate the 30-30 by several years; the 30-30 was a huge step backwards in cartridge development. The 6.5X55 and 7X57 are ballistic twins to the, 260, 6.5 Creedmoor and 7-08 so it isn't just new whiz bang cartridges that are better than the 30-30. Virtually every cartridge developed since smokeless powder is better.

While the 6.5X55 and 7X57 went on to be used all over the planet, used by several armies, used for long range target shooting, and take every animal on earth including elephant, as well as being the foundation for a significant number of newer cartridges, the 30-30 was plodding along with mediocre accuracy as a 100-150 yard deer cartridge.

And FWIW, I own 6 different 30-30 lever rifles made by Marlin and Winchester. I like them well enough, but I don't confuse nostalgia with performance.

And yes, everyone should have a 30-30 and the youth rifle should be a good choice. I really like my 16" Trapper in 30-30. 2nd from the right. Very similar to yours.
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My wife owns an old microgroove. I walked it out to 400 using factory ammo. With a scope it is adequate to about 250yds. 300 is dropping fast. 400 is about 9ft low from a 100yd zero.
 
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