Kahr cm9

Big_Al

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Finally got around to shooting my new cm9. Spent a few nights just racking the slide to loosen it up. Put a couple boxes thru it today and was happy. Functioned perfectly and trigger was nice, typical kahr feels like you're shooting a double action revolver.
 
I was forced into buying a CM9 after my CW9 was stolen... and all my dealer had on the shelf was a single CM9. I didn't like it at first, but turned out to be a very good and reliable pistol.... it sounds like yours is, too! :)
 
A pic or it's imaginary...

Sorry... I forgot my manners...

CM9 on top, 2 of my CW9's below. After losing my single CW9 from a truck break-in, I finally understand the adage 'two is one, one is none.'

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I don't own any polymer Kahrs, but I do own a MK9, K9, and their 40s&w equivalents. When I carry them, it's typically in 40.

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I've always been interested in Kahr's .380, it seemed to be smaller than the LCP and prior to the LCP II likely had the better trigger. Nowdays when I think of Kahr it's either for the MK9/MK40 as they're the most affordable, small steel frame 9 or .40 and also the .45's were the next lowest price .45 on the market to Hi Point, but with Taurus now doing the TH45 I think that displaced Kahr, but the Kahr's are smaller, lighter, and better for CCW and probably have a better trigger.

I won't knock anyone who likes Kahr, the company has been around a while, it's one I don't question their motives when it comes to the 2nd Amendment as the company was founded to support the conceal carry movement and they've never deviated away from that focus. Their pistols are quality, affordable, and unique.

Turns out they had a doublestack at SHOT last month called the X9 and it's cut for optics and uses P365 magazines.
 
I've always been interested in Kahr's .380, it seemed to be smaller than the LCP and prior to the LCP II likely had the better trigger. Nowdays when I think of Kahr it's either for the MK9/MK40 as they're the most affordable, small steel frame 9 or .40 and also the .45's were the next lowest price .45 on the market to Hi Point, but with Taurus now doing the TH45 I think that displaced Kahr, but the Kahr's are smaller, lighter, and better for CCW and probably have a better trigger.

I won't knock anyone who likes Kahr, the company has been around a while, it's one I don't question their motives when it comes to the 2nd Amendment as the company was founded to support the conceal carry movement and they've never deviated away from that focus. Their pistols are quality, affordable, and unique.

Turns out they had a doublestack at SHOT last month called the X9 and it's cut for optics and uses P365 magazines.
I honestly believe that if the CEO, Justin Moon, didn't drop the ball over a decade ago until this very day by refusing to offer double stacks, innovate, and keep up with market trends, they could have been a juggernaut of a firearm manufacture. Kahr snubbed the market and their customers, so now I unfortunately believe their ship has sailed. The K9 and PM series were very popular in the past, and competition in the conceal carry market was slim.

I don't see their X9 being a hot sellers when now there are so many more established and very popular offerings on the market. I'm a Kahr fanboy, and even would rather have a Glock, Sig, M&P, CZ, HK, Beretta, etc. over the new Kahr. I don't even think the X9 is a true traditional doublestack. I think it's micro 9mm size, but Kahr's CEO and management are showing their incompetence yet again by marketing it as a "doublestack."
 
I honestly believe that if the CEO, Justin Moon, didn't drop the ball over a decade ago until this very day by refusing to offer double stacks, innovate, and keep up with market trends, they could have been a juggernaut of a firearm manufacture. Kahr snubbed the market and their customers, so now I unfortunately believe their ship has sailed. The K9 and PM series were very popular in the past, and competition in the conceal carry market was slim.

I don't see their X9 being a hot sellers when now there are so many more established and very popular offerings on the market. I'm a Kahr fanboy, and even would rather have a Glock, Sig, M&P, CZ, HK, Beretta, etc. over the new Kahr. I don't even think the X9 is a true traditional doublestack. I think it's micro 9mm size, but Kahr's CEO and management are showing their incompetence yet again by marketing it as a "doublestack."
It's a higher capacity than the single stacks. I'm tired of the verbiage of the full size doublestack and the P365 style pseudo doublestack, so whatever, it's a pistol that uses P365 mags and I'm sure a 365XL mag version will come next year.

I think the reason Kahr didn't try to go after larger pistols with double stacks 10-15 yrs ago was they knew they were competing against Glock, Beretta, and many others. Much like a micro 9mm today, it's a saturated market and hard to justify investing in machines to get market share for, especially a company that's not big trying to compete with huge goliaths like S&W, Ruger, etc.

The market has shown that it only cares about 9mm and capacity, so making a 9mm that holds more rds than what your current 9mm does is an easy way to stay competitive.

Could they make other stuff? Yeah, but what's going to sell? A small .22 like the LCP that actually works would be a start.
 
I think the reason Kahr didn't try to go after larger pistols with double stacks 10-15 yrs ago was they knew they were competing against Glock, Beretta, and many others. Much like a micro 9mm today, it's a saturated market and hard to justify investing in machines to get market share for, especially a company that's not big trying to compete with huge goliaths like S&W, Ruger, etc.
Yet all other manufacturers have released their versions of a double stack striker 9mm since then. Taurus, Ruger, Beretta, HK, Sig, FN, Canik, Springfield, and a plethora of other manufacturer who were big and small released double stack strike-fired 9mms into the market as well that have done extremely well while Kahr continued to hit on their hands. They would be in a much better situation and more relevant today if they didn't remain stagnant over the last decade. They are pretty much irrelevant now compared to where they were. They aren't selling well at all.

Back in 2000-2012, the market was nowhere near as competitive and saturated as it is now. There weren't many strike-fired double stack pistols, and there certainly weren't any with Kahr's DAO like trigger. It would have logically made much more sense to come out with a double stack over a decade ago versus doing it now in the current market. Heck, even a steel frame doublestacks in 9mm and 45acp would have been a hit. I believe M&P and DA/SA metal framed Sigs and Berettas were in competition back then. Kahr would have had a huge nitch and market with their customers who already owned their single stacks.

I'm not sure that all these other companies could release polymer frame strike-fired handguns back then that sold well except for Kahr (who was much, much, much more popular during that period of time).
 
Yes, Justin Moon sat on his Kahr Hands way too long and the brand suffered in popularity in recent years as a result.
However, there is plenty of room left in the market for their “stack & a half” X9 if it proves to be as well made & reliable as their other pistols have been for almost 30 years.
A lot of carry fans tend to go from one brand to another in their quest for what suits them best, or just like to have a variety of choices in their rotation.
It’s a bit premature to declare Kahr’s irrelevance in the long run, IMO.
 
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