Kel Tec PF9 twisted industries .22lr conversion kit

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Just placed an order for a .22lr conversion kit for my Kel Tec PF9....it is made by twisted industries. Called the pf922. getting real good reviews on KTOG.

does anyone have this? How do you like it? I will do an update when I get it.

Reviews seem to indicate it will feed almost anything and is accurate and well made to boot. I really wanted a .22lr auto that has the look and feel of a "bigger" gun and this seems to fit the bill. The most obvious competitors I can think of are the Sig Mosquito and Walther p22 which both have a reputation of being ammo picky. S&W new M&P .22 has the look and feel of these guns but for the price of it you can get a PF9 and the conversion kit.

Can anyone name a comparable 2 gun 9mm and 22lr combo for $500 (pf9 $300 and .22 conv $200)

Can you tell I am excited:D
 
Ya the eaa witness 9mm and .22 kit is around 500 maybe under along with the 45, .22 kit. Nice find tho I would lovE to get a .22 kit for my cz but at 350 bucks it's just cheaper to buy a new .22
 
Guess you didn't read my review on it. (On KTOG)
I got one of the first conversions, (serial #19) and it won't accept any ammo EXCEPT CCI MiniMags. Had a LOT of feed and fire problems with that ammo before I had to send it back.
Now it still won't shoot anything other then CCI MiniMag ammo but it does shoot that most of the time.
Didn't really get much chance to try the replacement out as the PF-9 went to hell again and is back at KelTec for the third time.

When it works, it is fun to shoot and I REALLY hope I can get the system to function . I did buy a Kahr P9 to replace the PF-9 so maybe I'll have a new PF-9-22 as a plinking toy.
 
Guess you didn't read my review on it. (On KTOG)
I got one of the first conversions, (serial #19) and it won't accept any ammo EXCEPT CCI MiniMags. Had a LOT of feed and fire problems with that ammo before I had to send it back.
Now it still won't shoot anything other then CCI MiniMag ammo but it does shoot that most of the time.
Didn't really get much chance to try the replacement out as the PF-9 went to hell again and is back at KelTec for the third time.

When it works, it is fun to shoot and I REALLY hope I can get the system to function . I did buy a Kahr P9 to replace the PF-9 so maybe I'll have a new PF-9-22 as a plinking toy.
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Leader I did see your post and it looks like maybe the first ones did have some issues with ammo....from most of the other post on the 45 page thread it looks like the recent batch is performing well with all ammo. I hate it for you and understand your frustration...hopefully though I can be the benefactor of the trails of the earlier versions now that the bugs are (hopefully) worked out.
 
i just wanted to give an update....i got my PF922 Kit in last night and while i have not gotten a chance to shoot it my first impression is very postive .....the fit and finish is very good (much better than kl tecs)...seems very well made .....if it shoots as well as it looks i will be very happy....then they just need to make one for my p3at
 
Wonder if the kit would fit a P11? Same top end, but the mag wouldn't work, I guess. Heck, you could have a 20 shot mag fit flush in the P11. :D

I'd like to know how accurate the PF9 is with the .22 and POI comments, shooting from a rest at 25 yards is the only way I'll get relevant info, though. Of hand groups at 15 feet tell me nothing about a gun. If this thing was real accurate, I might have me a new desire, pick up a PF9 and a conversion to replace that crappy HP22 Phoenix Arms I have that's uber accurate, but eats recoil springs and is made of zinc. :rolleyes: I use it as an outdoor kit gun and plink with it, but I'd like to have something made of better materials that I don't have to bug PA for springs for every 500 rounds. A PF9 is about the same size and LIGHTER than the PA.
 
I think the .22lr kit provides very little training when using the PF9. Its not fun to shoot(unlike the glock kits) and strictly ccw piece.

IMO the recoil is a big part of how hard it is to shoot.
 
Since the PF-9 is made as a carry SD pistol I see no reason , to bench shoot at 25 yds. I am able at 15 yds to hit head on B-27 standing one handed so more than accurate enough for SD .

I don't understand the recoil thing I find this pistol more comfortable to shoot than one of those light weight snubs. Way better than that silly LTW 357S&W has.

I have shot Corbon +P in mine It is a little snappy but not all that bad.

The PF-9 is even putting my Colt Defender in the safe as a carry pistol.
 
Since the PF-9 is made as a carry SD pistol I see no reason , to bench shoot at 25 yds. I am able at 15 yds to hit head on B-27 standing one handed so more than accurate enough for SD .
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That tells me NOTHING ABOUT THE ACCURACY OF THE GUN. I fire off sandbags at 25 yards even my NAA mini revolvers for accuracy testing and, yes, they have surprised me. If I had a ransom rest, i'd use it, to test the GUN regardless of the use of the gun. People that don't shoot off bags don't know the intrinsic accuracy of their firearms, cool if you don't care, I guess. :rolleyes: And, how the hell do you regulate sights if you don't rest the gun on bags to shoo it?

If I bought one of these kits, I'd use it to shoot rabbits at 25 to 30 yards, and 6" falling plates, not people. I'd use the 9mm for people. Since I have a Dillon progressive and cast my own, I can shoot my 9 for less than the price of CCI mini mag at Wallyworld. I have no interest in this conversion for that. I use my Phoenix Arms .22 for small game, snakes, stuff when I'm fishing or knocking about. It carries in a back pocket. My .22 Rossi revolver shoots slightly better groups, but is not pocketable.

I'm thinkin' it wouldn't shoot to the same POA as the 9x19 barrel, at any rate, even if it were accurate enough to suit me. But, no matter, I'd file the sights for the .22. Don't need the 9, have a P11 I'd as soon carry.
 
I did a review on this a few months ago...

Well after a long wait, much longer than I was really comfortable with, I finally received my conversion in the mail. Before ordering from them again I would want to know they have what I am ordering in stock, I really dislike waiting 7 weeks after they have accepted my money before shipping.

First impressions...

It is a lightweight unit but looks well made. No sharp edges and the DuraCoat is well applied. The finish is even and free of runs or thick spots. The 3 dot sights come up nicely with the rear adjustable for windage tho my was dead on as far as the POI being centered on the target. Slide serrations are deep and just sharp enough to be non-slip. Magazines have an alloy body with poly base plate.

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The kit was simple enough, slide, barrel, recoil spring and rod. It went together very easily without any work or binding.

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The barrel has a very generous ramp which seems to aid in reliabilty in feeding.

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At the range...

Took the unit out to the range and loaded upo with Federal Auto Match...only ammo I had with me. Out of the first 20 rounds I had 5 failures to function. I realized it was my fault...I was holding the gun like I would many 22 rimfires, with a somewhat loose grip. I tightened up and for the next 200 rounds it performed perfectly. Windage was spot on but with the Federal Auto Match it is shooting a couple inches high at 10 yards. Groups size was very good when I did my part and concentrated on the long double action trigger. I will bench it at 25 and see just what the gun is capable of later this week weather permitting.

Felt recoil was non existent and it was a lot of fun to shoot. I had 3 others shoot it today after the match and all were impressed with the feel and how well it shot. I am very pleased with the units performance so far. My future plans are to bench it for accuracy as well as trying some different brands of ammo in it. Hopefully it will perform as well with HPs like CCI Mini Mag.

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Twisted Industries has plans to produce a conversion for the Kel Tec P-11 and the KelTec P3AT in the near future. Price was $200 with one magazine, extra mags are $35 each.

Is it worth it? I would have to say yes. First it makes a great trainer for teaching newcomers. Second if you like to practice with your carry gun the price of the conversion can quickly be made up in ammo savings, especially if you don't reload. I can also see this serving as a kit gun on the trail or in the woods. And if for no other reason it is just a lot of fun to shoot and not have to worry about finding your brass.

I give this unit a big thumbs up!

I now have over 4000 rounds through mine and it still runs flawlessly. Accuracy has been outstanding when I do my part, 2 inch 25 yard groups are the norm offhand.
 
24SEP to 08OCT for your order, TennJed?
2 weeks isn't bad, I'll have to start looking for a used pf9
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It would normally not take that long now. when I ordered mine they had them in stock I made a special request and it delayed it by a week.

When I ordered mine they had all 3 colors in stock and should ship out the next day
 
The trigger on the PF-9 is the biggest drawback to accuracy with the conversion. Mine is very smooth however thanks to both many round rounds of ammo being shot but also thanks to the thousands of time I dry fired it in practice the first winter I owned it. Always with a snap cap btw. People who have shot mine are amazed by the trigger, especially those who have read how horrible the PF-9 trigger is supposed to be. To me mine feels like a slightly long, well tunes J-Frame trigger.
 
451 Detonics, thanks for a super review! If they're going to come out with one for the P11, I'll probably just wait for that. Hell, I just dumped 200 bucks on a 5.5" Remington '58, so I could stand a break in spending for a bit, anyway. LOL

Regards to the trigger, much griping about the P11 trigger and the PF9 is both lighter and shorter, but I'm so used to the P11. I have rough counted over 11K rounds through that thing in the last 15 years. It's been a constant carry, though I do rotate with a .38 revolver and a P64 Radom when I'm in the mood. It shoots a might high at 25 yards with most ammo, but with my +P carry, it's dead on POA and groups 3.5" at 25 yards off the bench which isn't GREAT, but pretty decent for a pocket auto of locked breach design.

Anyway, now, I'm kinda excited about this thing. I shoulda figured it came with a different slide for the kit, DOH, that gives me a set of sights regulated for the .22 and I won't have to mess with the 9mm sights. Cool.

Thing about the P11's trigger, yes it's long and yes it has a heavy trigger vs a 1911 or something, but it stages right at the end of the travel allowing me to place a shot when I'm firing for groups or for accuracy. I don't notice the staging when shooting combat strings. I've even shot this thing a few times at IDPA matches and done WAY better than I expected with it. I was a little off my speeds due to the short sight radius of the gun compared to my Ruger I usually shot, but hey, I wasn't that much slower and my groups were good and tight.

Yeah, my HP22 shoots 3" groups with the 3" barrel at 25 yards, so if it can come close to that, it's a heckuva upgrade in quality and will give me a nice plinker and pocket carry field gun to replace the cheapo I've hung on to because of its accuracy. I'd get intersted in the P3AT version, but I don't think it'd be capable of the accuracy of the 9s due to the shorter sight radius. Anyway, I already have a P11. :D

Hey, for 200 bucks, I'll give it a try when they become available. That's only 50 bucks more than new HP22s run, though I got mine for 70 bucks years ago.

I'll keep an eye out for your benched groups, but sounds like it might do fine.
 
451 Detonics, thanks for a super review! If they're going to come out with one for the P11, I'll probably just wait for that. Hell, I just dumped 200 bucks on a 5.5" Remington '58, so I could stand a break in spending for a bit, anyway. LOL
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First off, I agree thanks 451 detonics....great review.

Also wanted to mention that twisted industies posted on the KTOG forums a few days ago that they had a working one for the P11....but it was still in the testing stage...didn't give a time frame for release but it does look like they will have one out sooner rather than later.

Thats looks to be good for you..(I was hoping for a P3AT one next...all well the P11 is on my short list to buy next.)
 
My only real complaint is the price of the extra mags, $35 each is tough when you like having at least ten mags for any gun you own. Sadly anytime you have a new gun (or conversion) extra mags will be high simply because of the expense of tooling up to make them. I will just add one every so often when extra funds are available.
 
My only real complaint is the price of the extra mags, $35 each is tough when you like having at least ten mags for any gun you own. Sadly anytime you have a new gun (or conversion) extra mags will be high simply because of the expense of tooling up to make them. I will just add one every so often when extra funds are available.
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10 mags for a .22? Why? I ain't goin' to war with the thing. I'll be happy with one. However, I'll probably get a spare just to have it. I own two spares for carries 'cept my revolvers, of course, then two speed loaders. Hell, if I had 10, 8 would probably rust in the closet. I usually only carry one spare for the P11 or any other auto I might carry except my P64 which I can put 2 mags in a mag case that only holds one for the P11. If you're going to load 10 to take to the range, well, you'll shoot 'em up faster. Me, hell, I shoot cap and ball, used to reloading sssslllloooowwww, not really in to wasting ammo with brass wasters. :D

I agree the price of mags is high, but I don't see the need in more than one spare for a .22 I'm not going to carry for defensive use.
 
Companies do go out of business and mags do break...I prefer having plenty of spares just in case. I also tend to load mags at home before going to the range and I do shoot a lot of competition. I hate having to load mags in the middle of a course of fire. (I have already shot the 22 conversion in a concealed carry mouse gun shoot) We also do shoots like the 4 classic Action Pistol matches with 22s...minimum of 8 mags required for that. For walks in the woods a small belt pouch easily holds 10 mags full of 22s, lets me plink away at targets of opportunity without having to reload mags.

I think 10 mags is the minimum I would want to own for any semi-auto.
 
Companies do go out of business and mags do break..
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True enough and that's why I usually get more'n one and why I'd want a spare or, well, maybe two with this conversion. I wish I'd bought more, only got 3, with my .22 caliber Ramline Exactor, nearly impossible to find now days and the mags don't hold up well. Oh, well, another mistake I bought, I guess. That gun would be decent if I had a new mag for it. :banghead: But, had I bought more, they'd probably all be crapped out by now. :rolleyes: Plastic junk. Wish someone would make a metal one.

Anyway, on topic, 70 bucks for two spares is a might much, but like you, I understand why. I'll probably just get one or 2 spares for just in case these guys go out of business and I wind up needing one. They're metal, I presume. If they were plastic, they WOULD be too expensive.

I've got an old Grendel P12 I never carry since getting the P11. I got two mags for it. The gun is discontinued, but there are mags still about for it. They're plastic, but a rugged plastic. Both are still functional.

Anyway, I know what ya mean from experience. :D
 
451 DETONICS, I have a question. I understand your reasoning and was wondering do you typically get the extra mags when you purchase the firearm or later?

I only got the one mag with this kit. I usually do this with auto loaders untill I see how I like the gun. If I like the gun and it is a keeper I will usually get a few xtra.

The very first semi auto I bought was a Ruger P95. I bought it and 5 extra mags. It was a fine gun and never gave me any problems....but it just did not siut me. I didn't like the way it fit in my hand. When I sold it I tried to sale the whole package and it was a ot harder to sale that way. I ended up seling the mags seperate and taking less for them than I would have liked
 
451 DETONICS, I have a question. I understand your reasoning and was wondering do you typically get the extra mags when you purchase the firearm or later?
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Depends...When I bought my Ruger Mk1 I had the mags in hand before the gun arrived, but I had shot Rugers before and knew I liked them. On other guns I wait till I am sure the gun is a keeper.
 
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