Know anything about a Rohm (RG) .44 Mag?

[MCgunner]

Mmm, RG or Buckmark...wow, that's a tough one. I guess if it's not dangerous, I mean, if the majority of bullet goes out the FRONT end of the barrel, well.......

 

[Guillermo]

But, don't buy an RG

dude, if I have second thoughts about an old Rossi you know darned well I can't buy a german zip-gun

this is an old Rossi. not much blue left on it.

Actually thought it was a Smith when I looked in the case.

Didn't handle it. Might drop by mañana and look at it

 

[jimmyraythomason]

It is accurate, reliable, and if someone rips it off, you're out 100 bucks. What's not to like?
But, don't buy an RG.

Do you always contradict yourself?

 

[MCgunner]

Eh? I gave 16.50 brand new for that RG from Gibson's discount in Lake Jackson, Texas in 1974. That Rossi is a friggin' KORTH by comparison...

 

[jimmyraythomason]

MCgunner,your description of the Rossi also fits the RG(accurate reliable and small investment) yet you LIKE the Rossi not the RG.

 

[Guillermo]

the majority of bullet goes out the FRONT end of the barrel

that is funny stuff

 

[MCgunner]

MCgunner,your description of the Rossi also fits the RG(accurate reliable and small investment) yet you LIKE the Rossi not the RG.

I'm sorry, but in my experience, "Accurate" and "Reliable" are foreign to an RG. Click, click, bang, ouch, click, bang, ouch.....clunk (me throwing the thing out the window of my 64 chevy heavy half after I got enough of the POS). I didn't want it hurting me or someone standing next to me.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

I'm sorry, but in my experience, "Accurate" and "Reliable" are foreign to an RG.

This is NOT MY experience with the ones I've used. I killed a bobcat with one while trapping beaver. It was NOT in a trap and had come out of the canes on me while I was wading upstream. One shot in the neck and it was lights out. That isn't even counting the trapped beaver,raccoons,fox and skunks killed that WERE in traps. Trust me they were not pointblank shots either(particularly the skunks). Mine NEVER failed to fire,never spit lead and carried very well in my pocket. I just don't understand why one gun that is reliable and accurate is acceptable and another that has the same attributes is not. Seems contradictory to me.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

RG or Buckmark...

my point in the comparison being that they both do their job.

 

[MCgunner]

If you like your RG, if it works, great. I can't go to hard on it if they actually produced one that works, I guess. But, I'm guessing my Ruger Mark 2 will shoot rings around it. Hell, I bet my Phoenix Arms HP22 will. The 3" barrel groups 3" at 25 yards off bags. That thing is a cheap POS, but the accuracy is beyond explanation. You should see the wiggle in the barrel. I just don't understand how it could shoot so straight. So, I have cheap guns that do work. If your RG works for you, great, but I will never consider actually spending money on another one, just me.

BUT, that Phoenix Arms is in NO WAY a Ruger or Buckmark. I ain't gettin' THAT carried away!

 

[6_gunner]

My Dad used to have a little RG .22. It was 100% reliable and surprisingly accurate. If I found another one like it for $50 or so, I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

However, I don't think I'd trust something like that chambered in .44 Magnum! That's a pretty serious cartridge to fire out of a gun with a potmetal frame.

And for $300 your friend got hosed! You can get a Ruger Six Series for $300 if you shop around. I don't know about anybody else but for the same money I'd take a fine quality .357 over a VERY questionable .44 any day.

 

[moxie]

That is very scary. Even if it doesn't blow up, I would question its ability to fire a round with every trigger pull, and I would question whether it could hit anything more than a few inches away. I have seen a RG .22 miss at ten feet, which implies it caused the bullet to make a 90 degree turn after it left the barrel. This is what RG has done to the laws of physics. .44 mag...the horror!!

 

[w_houle]

I'd do it for $300 on an FTF deal, depending on how it looked... but I never was that bright
Oh yeah, I don't know how I could've forgotten my favorite... My RG-63 .38 spl. It's a kinda SAA clone, but also does DA. I don't get great groups with WWB 115gr FMJ, but it does 158gr LRN

 

[jimmyraythomason]

my Ruger Mark 2 will shoot rings around it.

No argument there. I only wish people would rate each firearm by it's own merits not by the name on the side. There are threads going on here right now about Colts being out of time and poor CS by S&W,etc. yet everyone lauds them as "quality"(including me).

 

[jimmyraythomason]

I would question its ability to fire a round with every trigger pull, and I would question whether it could hit anything more than a few inches away

No experience with one? As I have said MANY times on here. My Dad's NEVER misfired. That's pretty reliable in ANYONE'S book!

 

[MCgunner]

No argument there. I only wish people would rate each firearm by it's own merits not by the name on the side. There are threads going on here right now about Colts being out of time and poor CS by S&W,etc. yet everyone lauds them as "quality"(including me).

I hear ya. Just the RG deal. That .22 revolver really was crap with a capital C I had an RG26 I carried for years in a back pocket condition 3. it was a cheap .25ACP. Think Raven. It functioned 100 percent, but I couldn't hit squat past 15 feet with it. It did, however, run off a bum with a knife that wanted my wallet. THAT made it worth the 50 bucks it cost. He had a knife, came out of the shadows high noon in Galveston. First he asked me if I'd cash his social security check. I'm thinkin', "do I have first national bank on my shirt?" Then he pulls the knife when I tell him no. So, I pulled the little RG and racked the slide. Last I saw of him was the bottoms of his shoes as he ran down the alley from whence he'd come.

That little .25 was cheap if I'd had to dump it, and small. Back then, it was illegal to carry so I really didn't wanna get caught doing it. It was no Les Bauer 1911, but hey, it was better'n nothin', sure beat a knife!

 

[MCgunner]

BTW, cool lookin' .38, but I'll keep my blackhawks.

 

[Guillermo]

he pulls the knife when I tell him no. So, I pulled the little RG and racked the slide. Last I saw of him was the bottoms of his shoes as he ran down the alley from whence he'd come.

I had a similar experience in New Orleans, although the firearm was a Smith 19

 

[MCgunner]

dude, if I have second thoughts about an old Rossi you know darned well I can't buy a german zip-gun

this is an old Rossi. not much blue left on it.

Actually thought it was a Smith when I looked in the case.

Didn't handle it. Might drop by mañana and look at it

Just check it out good for head shake/gap/barrel/forcing cone/timing, etc. If it checks out, maybe it got carried a lot more than it got shot. Same for any brand revolver. Let us know what you find. Start a new thread if you buy it.

 

[Guillermo]

Let us know what you find

Will do

 

[stu454]

The RGs indeed have pot metal frames(many top grade brands also use light weight frames) but the barrels and cylinders are steel(and that's where it counts).

Jimmy,

There's a difference between pot metal and aircraft grade aluminum and scandium alloy frames.

And since when did the frame not have anything to do with the strength of a revolver?

If that's the case let's make frames out of chocolate pudding; it's light, rust resistant and yummy.

 

[w_houle]

Yes, because Frames made from material other than unobtainium, and cannot last for 1,000,000 rounds are crap!
http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/index.html?r=y

 

[Guillermo]

am I reading this right? You are comparing a pot metal Rohm frame to an investment casted Ruger?

Wow!

 

[MCgunner]

I own Rugers, they're cast....of ordinance STEEL. My P series (P85 and P90) have high grade aluminum alloy frames. My Taurus M85 SSUL has an aluminum alloy frame. That's a far, far cry from my Phoenix Arms' zinc alloy.

Yeah, frame strengih IS a factor. I had a .44 caliber '51 Navy brass framed replica that proved it by stretching beyond belief in just 6 years of moderate frequency shooting.

I will say, though, that zinc alloy is strong enough for the mighty .22 LR. However, the thought of a zinc alloy frame on a FORTY FOUR MAGNUM makes me wince a bit. In the scheme of things, on light weight .38s of high quality, none of the manufacturers use aluminum alloy on their .357 magnum variants. The only alternative to steel is titanium or Smith's scandium. The ultralite/airweight aluminum alloy is not strong enough for the higher pressures of the magnum cartridge. I can visualize what the first shot out of a J frame .357 magnum with a zinc alloy frame would look like. It ain't a pretty picture, especially with a human hand holding the gun. To make zinc strong enough for a .44, that would have to be one BIG handgun. Probably outweigh my TC contender scope and all.

 

[w_houle]

You are comparing a pot metal (crap) Rohm frame to an investment cast (digested food) Ruger?

Yeah, that I did, because it isn't:

...aircraft grade aluminum and scandium alloy frames.

... or maybe that's why Ruger had to make the frames so big. Because they are investment cast frames Oh, and to top it all off the link I posted goes to the LCR, which also is made from polymer