Kudos to Western Powder (Ramshot and Accurate)

[Dudedog]

Looked up some data for .32 S+W in Lyman. was really hoping to use #2 since it meters so well.
Lyman had jacked data but I always like a second source so after checking Westerns online load data and not finding anything I emailed them expecting a response sometime tomorrow if I was lucky.
I got a response from them in <10 Minutes
In case anyone is interested here is the data

The .32 S&W Long is not as popular as it once was. That is way it is not in the small load guides. The .32 S&W Long will be in our hard-backed Load Manual that we hope to have completed and printed by Feb 2017. Here is the requested load data.
Caliber: .32 Smith &Wesson Long
Barrel length: 4”
Powder: Accurate – No 2®.
Application: Target / WC projectiles
COL: ca 0.920” (assuming this OAL is just for the HBWCs)
Bullet weight: 98 grains. -- HBWC
Start load: 1.5 grains (600 – 650 Fps)
Maximum load: 1.8 grains (720 – 750 Fps).
Standard Projectiles/bullets
Bullet weight: 75-77 grains. -- RN-FB
Start load: 2.3 grains (ca 725 Fps)
Maximum load: 2.8 grains (ca 875 Fps).
Bullet weight: 100 grains. -- RN-FB
Start load: 2.2 grains (650 – 700 Fps)
Maximum load: 2.5 grains (725 – 775 Fps).

NOTES:
It’ important to note that SAFETY is our prime concern therefore we strongly recommend.
1. ALWAYS BEGIN LOADING AT THE RECOMMENDED MINIMUM “START” LOAD and develop loads in 2% increments towards the MAXIMUM load.
2. CAUTION: Beware of double charging if the loading density is below 50% of the available volume.

 

[Hondo 60]

Thanks for posting!

I, too, reload 32 S&W Long.
I have a Ruger Single Six in 32 H&R mag

Never thought about using Accurate #2.

I always went with Titegroup.
I have some #2, I think I'll try it just to see what happens

 

[stu1ritter]

Thanks Dudedog, always looking for more info on more powders for 32 S&W Long loading. Never thought to contact them about no data in their on line manuals. Good thinking on your part.

Stu

 

[noylj]

It goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway, don't push any HBWC over 800fps.
Chronographed Factory ammo from 608-670fps
Fun little round, but I hate the way my autos throw the cases all over the range, while my S&W M52s in .38 drop cases practically at my feet.

 

[stu1ritter]

noylj, didn't know there were any auto's that ran the 32 S&W Long? I know my 32Auto's do that.

Stu

 

[noylj]

The Europeans LOVE the .32 S&W long in autos for their 25 meter competitions.
I have a Hammerli, Walther, and Benelli. I prefer the Hammerli with the case catcher attached.
So far, after 15 years, I have yet to make a reload as accurate as the factory ammo, but I see it as a challenge.

 

[stu1ritter]

Ach (very loud head slap), I completely forgot about the target guns, especially since I used to own a Hammerli 280. Just goes to show you what these aging minds are not capable of.

Stu

 

[noylj]

It's pretty bad if you can forget a Hammerli you owned...
I "think" that Feinwerkbau also made one

 

[stu1ritter]

I had both the .22 and .32 but could never get the .32 to work with my reloads so I ended up selling the gun. This was around 1993 or 94.

Stu

 

[Walkalong]

My Benelli .32 Long drops them right at my feet. My .32 Autos send them into a time warp.

I have used N310, AA #2, and WST in the Benelli, and it seems to prefer the N310 overall.

The one out is me.

 

[16in50calNavalRifle]

Not 32 S&W Long, but Ramshot/Western related.


I was looking for a powder that might meter more precisely than 4064 for my Garand loads. Not really important - but I had been amazed at the consistency the Auto Drum delivered in some handgun loads, and always like exploring with a different powder, so ....


Cannot recall where - probably on the CMP reloading forum - I came across a few posters who loved TAC for their Garand loads. They mentioned that since it was not a stick powder it metered nicely. But I couldn't find Garand load data for TAC from the Western tables. So I emailed them.


Very quickly received a nice reply from Western with Garand data for TAC (which, unlike the much-discussed Hornady data, actually has recipes for 150g projectiles, which most non-competition shooters need).


So, more kudos to Western/Ramshot.

 

[thomas15]

Very quickly received a nice reply from Western with Garand data for TAC (which, unlike the much-discussed Hornady data, actually has recipes for 150g projectiles, which most non-competition shooters need).

Can you bring clarity to one point? Are you saying that the Hornady manual doesn't give loads for the M-1 Garand using 150g bullets period or are you saying that the manual doesn't give load data for TAC and 150g projectiles?

 

[Potatohead]

I want one. Not that it takes anything special for me to want another gun.

Off topic a hair, but how does the 32 perform compared with 380 Dudedog? Or anyone..? With my experiences with 380 so far at least, doubt it could be much worse.

 

[Dudedog]

.32 is a relatives.(revolver not a target gun) Not much recoil at all compared to my Kahr .380. I don't normally load for relatives but I made an exception in this one case. 32 S+W is $25+ a box when it can be found where I live, last box I saw in a LGS was over $30. 500 .32 bullets from MBC ~$30 Lee Dies $35, $4 worth of powder, lets call it $5, $15 worth of primers=$85 for 500 rounds, so on box #4 we were even. (some free brass from a THR PIF and saved brass from another box provided brass, actually had a score at the range and found 98 .32 cases the other day).
Buying the .32 dies was a no brainer.
Target Sports USA has some in Stock now for $15 box which is a good price but for small orders shipping adds a lot to the cost per box.
Using #2 and my old Lee "deluxe turret" with the auto disk set to throw 2.3 I scaled every charge for all 98 and all were 2.3 except for 2 that read 2.4. (Frankford DS750 rounds to .1 so 2.34 would read 2.3. 2.36 would read 2.4)

Think of .32 as a baby .380 or maybe a .22 LR on steroids.


I really like #2 for small charges
I like also like TAC, use it in .223.