Largest Bull Elephant Shot

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http://www.examiner.com/article/big...a-natural-history-museum-symbol-meeting-place

Here is the article but click on the link for pictures.

During the centennial year, revisiting a museum’s history of its most famous symbol, a rogue African bush elephant donated to the Smithsonian Institution. Resurrected by the taxidermy staff and unveiled in 1959, it was hailed as the world’s largest land mammal on display in any museum.

In 1955, Josef J. Fénykövi was a 65 year old Hungarian-born engineer and big game hunter, and uses the name Jose, while living in Madrid. This safari was to hunt in the dense bush tracking a gigantic foot print at three feet across found in the Cuando River region of southeastern Angola.

Any elephant matching that foot print was gigantic, and Fénykövi knew that he was not prepared with enough men or equipment; therefore, he planned to return following year with everything needed to be successful. Details about the hunt are in this article of the 1955, Sports Illustrated.

More pictures.

http://malomil.blogspot.com/2015/01/angola-por-jose-fenykovi.html

Smithsonian Institution’s taxidermists, led by Chief Taxidermist, William L. Brown, spent sixteen months preparing the animal for exhibition. Studying living African elephants, they made many sketches and photographs, and discovered that the raised trunk was an elephant greeting to friends.

Smithsonian taxidermist’s team used over 10,000 pounds of clay to shape the life-size model of the body, over an armature of wood, metal lathe, plaster, and sisal fiber. They had to work in a special plastic house supplied with steam to keep the clay from drying out, and the taxidermists were in bathing suits due to high humid temperatures with mountains of muddy wet clay,

A Three sections model was developed in two halves: 1), the body, and 2), the head. The skin, tanned in three pieces, was laid on top of the clay model and every wrinkle painstakingly restored. A plaster and sisal fiber mold was then made on top of the skin to hold it in position.

This produced a thin-walled manikin, very tough and durable. The two body halves and head were joined together and fastened with wood ribs from inside the body, via a trap door cut in the stomach to remove all of the clay, frames and even the moles from inside.

The Fénykövi elephant (recently nicked named Henry-no reference why) had been restored several times, including its setting or exhibit that it stands upon in the Rotunda has changed over half a century of greeting visitors. The Elephant has been the traditional meeting place for families and school groups forever. “Meet me at the Elephant”

For more info about Fenykovi's Elephant:
Height: From ground to withers, 13 feet 2 inches.
Length: From trunk tip to tail tip in straight line, 27 feet 6 inches;
Whole skin from trunk tip to tail tip, 33 feet 2 inches.
Feet Length: Front, 2 feet; rear, 2 feet 1 inch.
Feet Circumference: Front, 5 feet 7 inches; rear 5 feet 2 inches.
Body Circumference: The widest point, 19 feet 8 inches.
Total Hide: weighs 2 tons
 
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Cowpoke,

Reading the article from SI. It is reported that the elephant was shot 6 times with two .416 Rigby rifles and finished with a .375H&H.

BTW,

When body shooting an elephant it is not uncommon to have to make multiple shots and a follow up. Elephants lungs do not collapse like other animals.Their lungs are attached to the plural space unlike most mammals, keeping them from collapsing. Unless the heart is hit in conjunction with a lung shot, elephants can go a LONG way especially if they were shot with solids which do minimal tissue damage.
 
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Wonder how much the tusks weighed

My estimation from the pictures puts them in the 60 to 70lb range. I wouldn't take that to the bank but I'd bet I was in the money with that.
 
Reading the article from SI. It is reported that the elephant was shot 6 times with two .416 Rigby rifles and finished with a .375H&H.

BTW,

When body shooting an elephant it is not uncommon to have to make multiple shots and a follow up. Elephants lungs do not collapse like other animals.Their lungs are attached to the plural space unlike most mammals, keeping them from collapsing. Unless the heart is hit in conjunction with a lung shot, elephants can go a LONG way especially if they were shot with solids which do minimal tissue damage.

Clearly not a painless death as hunters try to argue.

Sad story. Elephants can live 70 years in nature.
 
Clearly not a painless death as hunters try to argue.

Sad story. Elephants can live 70 years in nature.

Which is why the vast majority of hunters strive for a brain shot on elephant. Crocodiles can live for over 100 years "in nature" should we not hunt them either?

So the lifespan of an animals dictates whether it should be hunted or not?
 
Which is why the vast majority of hunters strive for a brain shot on elephant. Crocodiles can live for over 100 years "in nature" should we not hunt them either?

So the lifespan of an animals dictates whether it should be hunted or not?
Not necessarily, but I'd say a population in danger of extinction should be part of the analysis for thinking beings... and that's where elephants (and other big game or primates) find themselves due to shrinking habitat and "harvesting" also known as murder for greed or sport... which I personally find detestable and harmful to the gun-rights cause. Non-gun people, or gun-neutral people, can and do easily demonize gun owners as murderous monsters for posing with the dead "trophies" of majestic animals... which is quite barbaric when you think about it.
 
On this continent, in the Southern regions ,Elephants are most certainly not in danger of extinction, in fact the bunny huggers have lead to the catastrophic increase in populations that the land cannot support.

Kruger Park for years regarded 9 000 to 11 000 to be the sustainable population in the National Park. It is now double due to cites and the habitat is being obliterated due to over population. The Northern regions are wasteland due to the volume of foliage consume and destruction to trees.

Leadcouncil you need to check your facts sir, it may not be what you are fed.
 
Not necessarily, but I'd say a population in danger of extinction should be part of the analysis for thinking beings... and that's where elephants (and other big game or primates) find themselves due to shrinking habitat and "harvesting" also known as murder for greed or sport... which I personally find detestable and harmful to the gun-rights cause. Non-gun people, or gun-neutral people, can and do easily demonize gun owners as murderous monsters for posing with the dead "trophies" of majestic animals... which is quite barbaric when you think about it.

You need to actually find the facts and not just regurgitate your animal rights drivel.

The only countries that have healthy in fact an over abundance of elephant are those countries that allow and regulate sport hunting of the species and carefully manage them. FACT.

The rest of your post isn't worth the time or trouble refute. You simply can't argue with another persons emotional ignorance.

I will say this however anti gunners will demonize us no matter what. If you don't like hunting I seriously suggest you stay off the HUNTING forum. That couldn't be more simple now could it counselor?
 
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The #1 way to kill all elephants on earth is to stop hunting them. Now doesn't that seem counter intuitive? When a ban is raised the demand actually goes down and the opposite is also true. John Stossel changed my mind on the issue.
 
Those who want to hunt elephants, and other endangered majestic beasts, will ignore all the data that shows that these populations are dying because, for no other reason, HUMANS ARE KILLING THEM. Undeniable. If left alone, they would not starve into extinction. With the exception of the occasional drought, there is plenty of water and food for elephants, big cats, apes, etc. HUMAN activity is killing them off. No credible conservation organization, that cares about the survival of these creature for their sake (not for profit sake) endorses killing more of them.

Take the elephant, which is this discussion.

Graphs: http://ge09d-geography-2010.wikispaces.com/2.++Decline+in+Species+including+excel+graph

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Here's a paper outlining the problem. NOWHERE does it suggest the solution is to "cull" and "hunt" or otherwise profit from killing more elephants... pretty noteworthy. I'd like to see someone produce credible elephant conservation data that supports killing them to conserve them (not some pro-hunting organization or government that simply wants to profit from it. https://cmsdata.iucn.org/downloads/african_elephant_summit_background_document_2013_en.pdf

Meanwhile, here's how the endangered Rhino is protected. Armed guards. That is the solution. Armed teams and drones to monitor and protect herds. I'd volunteer my tax dollars go to this (over the current wasteful government programs).

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More information from ACTUAL CONSERVATION EFFORTS. Note no propositions for killing more to conserve them. Instead, improving laws preventing killing, improve their security, increase policing, improving their habitats, increasing awareness, etc. as one might expect if you want to save a species.

http://cmsdata.iucn.org/downloads/e15i_68.pdf

http://www.iucn.org/about/work/prog...mmals/african_elephant/strategies_plans/aeap/

http://www.elephantdatabase.org/preview_report/2013_africa/Loxodonta_africana/2012/Africa

The only difference between a poacher, and someone legally killing a animal is some arbitrary law and bureaucrat gave a license - and humans make errors based on greed. A poacher kills without a license for financial gain. A "legal hunter" kills with an aribtrary license for the same greed and personal gains (neat-o experience, a picture of bravery to mount on some wall, etc.). The end result is the same for the creature that is needlessly butchered. And for elephants, which are closely knit communities, the results for their herds are tragic.

I'd encourage anyone considering bravery for elephant hunting to first educate themselves by reading about what you are doing, and watching some educational Natural Geographic videos on the subject. The images are too graphic to post here, but if you search for images of these dead creatures, it is hearbreaking.
 
Yes, humans are the problem. The LEGAL hunters are NOT the problem. The poachers are the problem.
Sadly that is incorrect. The only difference between legal and illegal, as I just mentioned, is that some human bureaucrat has granted an arbitrary license and heavily profited from it. It's the same end result, a dead creature.

And given that humans have caused the extinction and decline of dozens of species THROUGH HUNTING we are obviously not very good at saving species...

Recently, an auction for 1 hunting permit to kill a Black Rhino was granted for $350,000. Yep, that's a lot of money. Seems REAL conservation efforts would be to just put that money toward saving them, without pulling the trigger.

This ALL boils back to the greed of a hunter for his trophy, versus a desire to save a species.

As evidenced by history, the hunter will kill the animal whether it benefits or harms the species. The after-effect (benefit or harm) is secondary to the discussion. Anecdotal or cherry-picked evidence may show short term increases in animal populations from "legalized" hunting and expensive permits, etc. However, this is not the model for long-term success.

Real conservation individuals would NOT kill the creature and just donate to the cause.
 
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