Madcap_Magician
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Last three handguns I bought I walked in with a loaded gun, the clerks knew I had it, and they let me carry the one I bought from the time I signed the receipt on.
Last purchase at Cabela's
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aerod1
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Don't blame Cabela's. They are only "trying" to "lawyer proof" themselves.
Every retail store I've gone to does this. It's not that they don't trust you. The guy even carried mine out and said "I know, it's stupid, but it's the store policy."
If I didn't go to a place because they walked me out, I wouldn't be buying from Cabela's, Dicks, or Grady's - the three decent places to buy guns.
If I didn't go to a place because they walked me out, I wouldn't be buying from Cabela's, Dicks, or Grady's - the three decent places to buy guns.
noskilz
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Man, you guys are tuff on the OP. Maybe you should lighten up . . .
Naw!
Naw!
highmountain78
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The Cabela's store policy of an employee accompanying you out with your gun is the same here in Minnesota.
Please understand this is for loss prevention, it is not meant as an affront to you.
Losing any firearm is a lot more complicated than ordinary item loss. An FFL license, of the Cabela's class, entitles the BATFE to make any random book inspections and a lot more. If anything is missing thats not in inventory or the book, you will have alot of explaining to do.
I doubt any of us would wish to be in that position.
Please understand this is for loss prevention, it is not meant as an affront to you.
Losing any firearm is a lot more complicated than ordinary item loss. An FFL license, of the Cabela's class, entitles the BATFE to make any random book inspections and a lot more. If anything is missing thats not in inventory or the book, you will have alot of explaining to do.
I doubt any of us would wish to be in that position.
Runningman
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I guess I'm lucky enough to have a local gun shop who the owner and employees know me by name. And don't escort me to the door like I have done something wrong there after spending my money there.
DennisB
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The Ft Worth Cabelas folks have walked me to the door many times; usually it's Brian, or Maria, or H.B., or Melissa... I understand why, and enjoy the talk with them along the way. No one's mentioned yet that they also have a sign-in and escort for folks bringing a weapon into the store for sale/trade--for many of the reasons already given above, I'm sure.
earlthegoat2
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grow some thicker skin
toivo
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My local Gander Mountain has always let me walk out with my gun purchases on my own. FWIW, they have a sign at door saying "All guns entering the store must be checked at the customer service counter. THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO CCW HOLDERS." When they say "checked," they don't mean you leave it there; most people are bringing them if for trade-in or service. They just mean that they want to open it up and make sure it's unloaded. Since they don't escort you back to the gun counter, there are people walking around the store with cased/boxed arms all the time.
Their prices are still ridiculous, though.
Their prices are still ridiculous, though.
In today's world, the "walk of shame" seems to be part of life at most major retailers. A hardware store literally across the street from my house began selling guns last year. In november, I purchased a handgun there, and got to exeprience the "walk of shame" for the first time. I was told directly from the salesman who escorted me out that "the ATF agent who trained our employees told uus we basically have to do this to cover our own butts. Appearently, this "agent" filled the employees full of tales of people buying guns, then loading them up right in the ammo department and other assorted craziness. While I know the walk isn't (as of yet) mandated by law, it appears that the ATF is basically instructingf retailers to do this. Of course, I wasn't there and I didn't hear the words spoken by the agent. I'm relying on secondhand info, but due to the fact that the employee was more embarrassed about hafving to carry my gun than I was, I saw no reason to doubt him. He obviously didn't WANT to be doing it, but appearently he was told he "had to". Regardless, the "walk" hasn't turned me off of shopping there, nor do I eblieve it should stop others. Just think...if we all boycott every major gun retailer....why would anyone continue to sell guns? If it becomes more hassle and creates more hard feelings among its customer base, it would seem the easy solution would be to simply get out of the game. Fewer retailers means less competion for business, which means higher prices. In the end, what does anyone gain by this? I won't aptronize businesses with anti-gun rethoric, but I won't be boycotting Cabelas becasue of this either
BENELLIMONTE
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Every gun I have purchased at Cabelas, Wally World, Garts,
etc I have had the person that sold it to me carry it (boxed) to the exit and then hand it to me. No big deal!
etc I have had the person that sold it to me carry it (boxed) to the exit and then hand it to me. No big deal!
chuckusaret
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We have to accept being treated as a security risk because we have few places to purchase guns. Bull, I have dozens of guns and not one from Cabelas. I have purchased weapons at Gander Mountain and Dick's and have never been treated as a BG. There are no signs at the entrance of either store saying "No Guns". I don't buy from Cabelas and won't buy from them in the future.
Boba Fett
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Oh grow up. Stop your narcissistic whining.
Get it through your head that Cabela's policy is not a slight against you personally. They aren't treating you as a BG.
Using your "I'm being treated as a BG" reasoning,
(1) You must not go to gun shows, since they don't let you carry loaded firearms in there and they check any firearms you do bring in. Apparently, their policy has nothing to do with the safety of the patrons at the show. They are only doing it because they see you as a BG.
(2) I guess you don't buy ammo at Wal-Mart, since they check your ID to purchase ammunition. Apparently, their policy has nothing to do with keeping ammo out of the hands of underage minors. It couldn't have anything to do with keeping civil litigation and BATF problems at bay. They are only doing it because they see you as a BG. You probably don't buy spray paint, super glue, beer, or R-rated movies there either...
(3) You must not shop at Academy, since they have a policy about bringing firearms in to be seen by their firearms department and escort you to the firearms counter after they check your firearm. This has nothing to do with the potential that you didn't clear the firearm and might hurt/kill someone in the store. They are only doing it because they see you as a BG.
Get the picture?
Realize the world doesn't revolve around you and the policies Cabela's has are simply for your benefit, the safety of their patrons, and the civil and federal liabilities they must contend with.
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Mark K. C.
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Have you bought any ammo from a Bi-Mart ? They carrie the boxes up to the check stand. Last time just, to be a pain , I strolled up and down a few isles looking at stuf befor heading to the check-out.
nwilliams
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So they walked you to the door and handed you the gun. What's the big deal?
TexasRifleman
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No, you have to be treated with utter paranoia by corporations who have to live in fear of a government agency that we as voters have allowed to run amok.
If YOU had the possibility of facing the penalties ATF can bestow, and had knowledge of the kind of BS that Bloomberg and others have pulled would YOU run your business any other way? Especially if firearms were not 100% of what you do?
Different corporations will have different levels of paranoia, but it's OUR fault for not making our politicians deal with this agency, not a company just trying to stay in business.
UniversalFrost
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scored an rcbs turret press at the cabelas in glendale for $104 this past weekend!!! thought I was misreading the price, but they were clearancing them out and i walked out with 2 of the presses for the price of 1 normally. I already sold the other press online for $50 more than what i paid for it.
chuckusaret
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I have been attending gun shows and gun related events for about 60 years, how long have you been attending shows. No loaded gun in a gun show makes since, but I still carry my CCW and ammo without an escourt..
Wal Mart does not check my ID
We don’t have an Academy and I have never claimed I made a visit to their store
No I don’t get the picture jarhead and I am not a whining narcissistic.
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Ed Ames
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Look at it as a personality test.
It is what it is... they walk you to the door, and hand you a gun. How you interpret it, on the other hand, is an indication of your preconceptions and personal biases. If you interpret it as a walk of shame it's because you think of what you are doing as somehow shameful. You could as easily think of it as an honor escort... or a loss prevention strategy... or anything else.
Personally, I see it as somewhere between an honor march and a loss prevention strategy. I'm buying something special enough to get special treatment. Of course, I've also joked with the folks at the gun counter about people walking to the front door, pocketing the pistol, and walking right back in. They've seen it happen and think it's funny as anything. Not "funny awkward" or "funny suspicious" but "funny I like it."
It is what it is... they walk you to the door, and hand you a gun. How you interpret it, on the other hand, is an indication of your preconceptions and personal biases. If you interpret it as a walk of shame it's because you think of what you are doing as somehow shameful. You could as easily think of it as an honor escort... or a loss prevention strategy... or anything else.
Personally, I see it as somewhere between an honor march and a loss prevention strategy. I'm buying something special enough to get special treatment. Of course, I've also joked with the folks at the gun counter about people walking to the front door, pocketing the pistol, and walking right back in. They've seen it happen and think it's funny as anything. Not "funny awkward" or "funny suspicious" but "funny I like it."
Boba Fett
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Sorry about that. My mistake. Yet my point about Academy is still just as valid.
Lucky you. Just because they didn't check your ID doesn't mean they don't have that policy. Cabela's policy is no worse than Wal-Mart. Cabela's is apparently more consistent in following theirs.
I'm glad that having unloaded and zip-tied firearms at a gun show makes sense to you.
Now, take that sense we've cultivated and apply it to Cabela's. Is it just possible that they don't want stupid people doing stupid things in their store? Maybe they have to worry about the civil and federal legal issues? How about the simple fact that, it's not about you!
When you are unable to see that things are not specifically about you/directed at you, then yeah... ya totally are.
To reiterate maskedman504's excellent thoughts on the matter:
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dullh
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This is about the same thing as the "purists" getting their panties all a-tizzy over "no guns allowed" signs at gun shops...the fact is Cabela's can run their business however they see fit, and I don't think they're going to go under just because you were offended and decided to vote with your feet. Dick's Sporting Goods did the exact same thing to me back in November. I wasn't offended. They probably have liability insurance standards.
Just to let you know if you choose to shop elsewhere, I just dropped over $500 buying a new treestand and deer cart from Cabela's. I stand ready to make up the profit loss which resulted from your decision to shop elsewhere.
Just to let you know if you choose to shop elsewhere, I just dropped over $500 buying a new treestand and deer cart from Cabela's. I stand ready to make up the profit loss which resulted from your decision to shop elsewhere.
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