"Law and Order" Grrr...

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Evil, evil gun enthusiasts. :barf:

On last night's "Law and Order: Criminal Intent", they made a point of the "bad guy" being a "gun enthusiast". They mentioned it on two separate occasions, yet it had absolutely nothing to do with the storyline. The guy had not used guns in the crime or anything...There was no point at all in adding the "gun enthusiast" to the story. But, apparently, it showed that he was evil. :barf:

I watch all three "Law and Order"s each week, and I intend to let the show and the network know that I will not continue to watch if they portray gun owners this way.
 
Was that the one when the suspect(a doctor)says he finds target shooting very relaxing & the lady cop snarls that she doesn't?
Yah,I didn't especially care for that either.
 
I'm a big law & order fan even though they're not pro gun, but the character last night was a lier and a junky besides a murderer . I didn't take the gun remarks as a slam but to show the character would lie and try to suck up to the cops because they were digging around. Remember they also made the bad guy out to be a cheap skate, which I doubt would a gun nut in the big apple because of the cost.;)
 
Granted I didn't see the L&O epsisode, don't watch much TV anyway.
IIRC the character played by Jerry Orbach is leaving - is this true? I also "thought" he was pro gun - dunno for sure.

Over the last few years more and more TV shows like to throw negative messages into programs in regard to guns, gun rights, gun control.

I was talking to friend last night, whom is recovering and watching more TV than usual. His observation - seems like the TV shows toss in a lot of subliminal messages. Like how the Patriot Act makes it easier for them to to their job - almost smug about being "on that side of the fence". Gummit gonna protect you. He continued by saying the more these types of attitudes are portrayed the more the public will just "lay there and take it" - come to accept it and not much one can do about it...afterall it is for the "common good".

TV gave us the CSI syndrome - juries expecting all the high tech stuff they see on TV.

I think my buddy is going to rent movies, view old movies, or watch the weather channel...at least he can learn some meterological stuff, real world, and useful.

I wish I was rich. I'd back production of shows, documentaries , movies of Pro-Gun, RKBA and Liberties to counter the current viewing choices.
 
I have yet to watch more than 5 minutes of any L&O episode. Usually I just want to punch the old smart ass cop in the mouth.

This thread is more reason not to watch in my view.
 
I once read an interview with producer Aaron Spelling, who bragged about the "subliminal" messages he had inserted into scripts.

He made no bones about supporting liberal causes, including gun control. The average viewer gets many of his/her social messages and attitudes from crap like that.

The, "Law and Order" shows also do this. I saw an episode in the last day or so of, "SUV", wherein a disturbed mother "made" one of her sons shoot another with a gun she made available. They got in digs at guns in the home, too.

With the exception of the cancelled (still in syndication), "Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World", ALL TV shows that include guns have them only in the hands of cops or bad guys or jerks who let children get them, etc.

Well, wait: some of those dating shows on late at night show the dating couple visiting a shooting range. They don't necessarily make anti-gun remarks...all the time.

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It could have been worse. He could have been a "gun enthusiast" who committed crimes with a firearm. Instead he was a well respected physician who was a junkie and killed with morphine. Maybe the AMA should be upset.......
 
I like L and O and L and O SVU - I can't stand Criminal Intent. However, the shows are mildly antigun. They are set in NYC where the RKBA is not well understood. Surprising, they come across a lot of people with permits (usually the gun has gone astray).

Never yet seen a show were a CCW type has saved the day and was praised for it.
 
I wasn't offended by it. I thought he was using it at a means of throwing the detectives off. Plus the whole "15 rounds or 10" I thought was pretty stupid. If Vincent's character was carrying a G23 or G19, he wouldn't be limited to just 10 rounds unless he was carrying a G26 or G27. Either way I don't know how the doctor saw what gun he had because he had on his jacket, so if it were me I would have laid into him that I carry 13 rounds.

I didn't see the anti-gun bias. And trust me, I look for it. However, that doesn't mean some already anti-gun person made the connection that because he was a rich, gun shooting, white man they weren't surprised he was evil. I think the general population wouldn't have made the connection.
 
Been a lot of anti stuff on the air lately. Liberty stands still, Phone booth, and Bowling for columbine are just a few shown over and over.

The worst character on LAO is Jack McCoy. Every thing he says tends to make me cringe.
 
If you guys want to see sheer anti-gun propaganda, you should watch the old L&O epsidode with the "Rolf-9" that some misogynist converted into full-auto and then shot into a crowd of women.

Includes jabs at gun manufacturers--who the city of New York ends up suing because it's "too easy to convert to full-auto", people at gunshows, and talks about how an FFL dealer shipping a gun directly to someone through the mail they've never met before and who doesn't have an FFL themselves is "just a slap on the wrist".

There's a final scene where Jack McCoy/Sam Waterston drops a handful of rounds onto the table, then says that the easy ability to convert it to full-auto instead of just semi allowed him to fire this much, and drops a whole bucket--maybe a thousand rounds or more. Despite the fact that he only fired one or two mags earlier, and when they find the gun that he ditched in the park in a bag, there are still plenty of mags left.
 
Gee,and folks wonder why I don't watch broadcast tv....most of them seem to be against RKBA and portay folks like us as hicks,nuts or worse.And THEN there's the broadcast news,don't get me started....
 
Okay everbody ...

I'm thinkin' that we're starting to take this 'subliminal-anti-gun-message-thing' too seriously. How'bout we all just take a deep breath and go rent a good old Clint Eastwood flic ... :D
 
I'm thinkin' that we're starting to take this 'subliminal-anti-gun-message-thing' too seriously. How'bout we all just take a deep breath and go rent a good old Clint Eastwood flic ...
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Most of what the other people have mentioned are just off-the-cuff, snide remarks by the cops and characters on the show that are generally anti-gun.

However, if you watch the episode that I described, it is anti-gun to its very core and FAR from subliminal. It's about as subtle as a boot to the face.
 
I stopped watching Law&Order years ago when I saw the episode in which a homeowner shoots a foreign exchange student who couldn't speak English and had forced his way into thier home believing that it was his friend's address. While the detectives were questioning him, one of them picked up copies of both Guns&Ammo and Handguns magazine from his coffee table - referring to them as "dangerous reading" and intimating that he was a gun "extremist" or something....I can't remember the exact phrases they used other than to say that they definitely carried a negative connotation.

Needless to say that was the end of my support for the show.
 
"Law And Order"?? Why torture yourself with that network TV crap!? Go do something productive instead; clean your guns or something. Your blood pressure will be a lot better off for it.

:D
 
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