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"free exercises" ACLU opposes and would outlaw if they could

I would add to his list : the right to keep and bear arms.:mad:




http://www.etherzone.com/2003/lang091003.shtml

LAWYERS FOR COMMUNISM
FROM MOSES TO MARX!

By: Ted Lang

"You can’t say that!" boomed Rush Limbaugh shouting at a caller on his radio program a few years ago. The caller had been on the line several hours to express publicly his outrage over the sexual perversions that were going to be standardized and taught all over the nation via the dictates and fiats handed down to the United States Department of Education from the National Education Association. The NEA has postured itself similarly as has the ACLU, environmentalists, and other anti-American freak shows such as NOW, PETA and ELF.




"You can’t call these people socialists! That’s just what they’d like, to have us overreact and have us appear as unduly emotional and hysterical." I’m estimating Limbaugh’s exact words, but correctly comparing his emotional over-reaction to his misdirected under-reaction to a truthful, factual observation by the caller. And Limbaugh exacerbates the anti-Americanism legitimized by the NEA and its ilk by denouncing any and all "conspiracy theories." His belief is that if we cannot prove a conspiracy, then there’s no threat. That may not be the message he intends, but that’s the one he implies. And if these Quisling organizations aren’t socialists, then why not be more specific in terms of describing their real philosophy? It’s communism!

The New York Times-led left-liberal, mainstream establishment media, the NEA, NOW, ACLU, PETA, environmental mongrel groups and wolf packs, may not all be synchronized and function administratively as a unified force or conspiracy, but their outcome has the monolithic effect of standing the United States Constitution and its Bill of Rights on its head and achieving all the points so totally opposite the objectives the Founding Fathers secured for us guaranteeing individual liberty for each American. Nothing is more totally opposite America than the communist agenda advocated by this "non-conspiracy."

As Karl Marx, author of the Manifesto of the Communist Party made clear, religion, individual freedom, child-parent relationships and family unity and loyalty, must all be destroyed in order to rebuild a society to create the socialist utopia that is communism. And every dictator and murdering butcher has used the consolidation of government power via socialism and communism to replace people-representing government with the control by the rich and powerful to enslave nations.

So religion is "out," and government power and authority "in." Heterosexual unions and marriage are "out," and homosexual unions are "in." Freedom of speech is "out," and Campaign Finance Reform and the Patriot Act are "in." Parents must be the same sex, and schools must condition children to hate God and religion, and learn to accept all government and school authority without question. They are taught to refrain from questioning authority or learning to think independently. They must be taught the appropriate emotionalism and "feelings." That seems to cover it -- now how to enforce it!

Enter now from extreme stage left, the "American" Civil Liberties Union, or ACLU. Why "American" in quotes? What can be more anti-everything that is truly American than communism, the correct and thoroughly appropriate term describing their agenda?

At virtually the very top of their first website screen, under the primary heading "Urgent Call to Action," a group calling themselves the Center for Reclaiming America introduces visitors to the ACLU. Under the sub-heading entitled "A Covert Mission:" the CRA begins, "A look at the ACLU website is both misleading and disturbing – ‘To Keep America Safe and Free.’ But take a closer look…and [it] becomes frighteningly clear that the ACLU is to be feared. Instead of keeping America safe, they are aggressively working to strip all vestiges of our religious foundation, law and liberty from our nation."

This nation was originated by pilgrims seeking to establish religious freedom, and however zealously launched, was preciously preserved for all denominations under Judeo-Christian auspices. Those offended by our heritage are free to leave, but not free to use legal trickery maneuvering our rule of law to deprive us of our own founding religious heritage that created this free, great nation. The Center for Reclaiming America main page continues, "By twisting the First Amendment into something it was never meant to be, and seeking out vulnerable targets – in small towns, cities and states across America, [they are achieving their goal]."

The CRA points out, that Roger Baldwin founded the ACLU in 1920. "Several crucial leaders of the ACLU were members of the Communist Party [with headquarters in Moscow, Soviet Russia]. Earl Browder, then-General Secretary of the Communist Party [America], said the ACLU functioned as ‘a transmission belt’ for the party." There’s the connection: the ACLU’s foundation as a transmission belt for communism, founded by communists, and therefore committed from the get-go to Karl Marx’s horrific agenda disguised as utopia, which in reality is slavery made possible by the standard concentration of central government planning and power easily taken over by tyrants and dictators. Reminds one of the origins on the United Nations and the OSS beginnings of the CIA, no?

CRA, an outreach of Dr. D. James Kennedy’s Coral Ridge Ministries, does an excellent job summarizing both the history of the communist ACLU and its "accomplishments." Remembering Karl Marx’s basic requirements for a successful communist society, the destruction of all religion and the family, as well as the government take-over of the schools in order to indoctrinate children into socialist slavery, atheism, same sex "families" and homosexuality, destroying these bulwarks of our society is paramount to the ACLU’s program.

Here is a summarized list of the ACLU’s agenda:

Legalized child pornography
Tax exemptions for Satanists
Abortion on demand
Mandatory sex education
Ideological tests for court appointees
Public demonstrations by Nazis and Communists
Legalized polygamy
Busing


CRA points out the "free exercises" ACLU opposes and would outlaw if they could:

The public singing of "Silent Night" and other Christmas carols
Displays of nativity scenes, crosses, and other Christian symbols on public property
The posting of the Ten Commandments in classrooms or courtrooms
The words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" on U.S. coins
Tax-exempt status for churches [though the ACLU favors this status for certain occult groups – and themselves]

I’m sure you get the picture. The ACLU’s agenda is simply much more than merely un-American – it’s anti-American! One of my very first columns for the Internet over two years ago compared and lamented our "progress" from the Ten Commandments, to the Ten Amendments, and finally to the Ten Points of Communism offered by Marx. Marx is dead, but the ACLU continues to help US "progress."
 
Legalized child pornography

--- Isn't the curent standard that using children in the production of porn isn't legal, but computer-generated or hand-draw or painted porn is legal? Moreover, the term "porn" has yet to be defined exactly.

Tax exemptions for Satanists

---Doesn't make sense : either religious groups (churches) get tax exemption r they don't.

Abortion on demand

----Not touching that one on THR.

Mandatory sex education

----Mandatory anything wouldbe a bad idea.

Ideological tests for court appointees

----Haven't there always been at least informal lithmus testing?

Public demonstrations by Nazis and Communists

----Any laws which prohibit Ns and Cs from demonstrating can be applied to others. Witness current German laws.

Legalized polygamy

----Is marriage any business of the state in the first place? Who cares if they neighbor has three wives or one, or two husbands and a wife? The selfsame neighbors probably don't mind that you only have one spouse. Having seen how poly relationships work, I must say they are a mixed bag of pluses and minuses but also that they are not in the least bit damaging to anyone around.

Busing

---Mandatory anything...bad idea.

In short, it seems that it is the usual mix of good, bad and indifferent ideas, albeit advanced by unpleasant and misguided people.
 
The ACLU has quite admirably fought for the right of extremist groups like the Nazis and Communists to demonstrate. Freedom of speech, assembly and petition are for everyone - not just the people we like and agree with.
 
It is my understanding that the ACLU says there is a right to own real child pornography, but not to produce it... not just the fake kind.
 
couple of things here...

Within accepted case law doctrines, they actually do a pretty admirable job of advocating for positions that are consistent with the current interpretations of our rights.

I don't always agree with those interpretations. I also cannot forgive them for their utter failure to defend the 2nd Amendment along with the rest.

They also do a good job of taking on 'hard cases' like child pornography and Nazi speech. Despite the utter loathsomeness of those two things, one does have a right to them (although in the case of child porn, not to produce it, thankfully).

It irritates me when the religious right denounces the ACLU just because they (correctly) look to uphold the separation of church and state, privacy laws, and equal protection concepts.

Why is the religious right so afraid of these constitutional principles?
 
The ACLU

I, too, am disappointed by the ACLU's defense of the bill of rights -- except for the Second Amendment.

But you have to be an idiot to buy the unmitigated crap in the above post.

Free speech is for everyone. Even Nazis and communists.

What does the Second Amendment say? "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." We get upset when the "antis" say, "but what they meant is..." and we insist that it be interpreted in its plain English meaning.

So what is so damned hard to understand about "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"?

NO law. None.

You can't pick and choose. If you support the Second Amendment, get behind the First!

Free speech is for you, for me, for Nazis and Commies, and even for liberals! It's for people who like looking at pictures of nekkid (adult) ladies, and for the ladies and their photographers.

The First Amendment means no state-sponsored religious expression in the courtrooms, classrooms, coins or Congress. And what a shame it is that it is so poorly enforced!

The Bill of Rights means no illegal searches of you, your Arab-looking neighbor, or even the Communist Party HQ. It's called equal protection under the law, kids, and it's what makes us great.

Freedom is for everyone, not just those we agree with.

Matt
 
Matt, I'm no theocratist (is that a word?) but you're missing the second part of the sentence "Or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Kinda like the statists who harp on the militia clause in the Second, huh?
 
This is all part of living in a free society.
You may not agree, but who decides what is right and what is not?
 
Matt, I’m no theocratist (is that a word?) but you’re missing the second part of the sentence “Or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.â€

Seems like we already did this in another thread, but please show me the law that prohibits the free exercise of your religion.

~G. Fink
 
Communist LAWYERS?!? :D

ROTFLMAO

Well you can accuse many of them of being sharks with no moral basis, but they're the most pure capitalists I've ever met. They've established a guild/monopoly and milk it for all it's worth. Pure, take-no-prisoners capitalism. Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamintations of their women.

Want to hear a lawyer complain? Just threaten to give half the punitive awards to the state! THAT'S communism :D

The ACLU may be annoying, but communist it ain't. I just wish they'd push for the Second as hard as they push for the other rights. Besides, I see NO justification for expressions of religion made at public expense on public property, such as massive memorials to some god or demigod in the courthouse. It's obscene, ESPECIALLY given that it turns religion into a hollow shell--a tool for ambitious judges or senators.
 
"You can’t say that!" boomed Rush Limbaugh shouting at a caller on his radio program a few years ago. The caller had been on the line several hours to express publicly his outrage over the sexual perversions that were going to be standardized and taught all over the nation via the dictates and fiats handed down to the United States Department of Education from the National Education Association. The NEA has postured itself similarly as has the ACLU, environmentalists, and other anti-American freak shows such as NOW, PETA and ELF.
Limbaugh has stated numerous times that environmentalism is the new home of the Communist party.
 
Legalized child pornography - Not going to happen. Wouldn't worry about it, the kids are safe.

Tax exemptions for Satanists - Shouldn't happen. For any religion.

Abortion on demand - I'll bite. :D Until a baby can reasonably be expected to survive on it's own outside of the womb, it's a non-living hunk of tissue in my books, with no rights to life or otherwise, the property of it's creators (parents).

Mandatory sex education - Shouldn't be mandatory.

Public demonstrations by Nazis and Communists - So? Freedom of speech.

Legalized polygamy - So? What consenting adults do shouldn't be your business anyway.
 
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