There will always be Lee bashers, some of which have never used Lee equipment.
Is everything LEE makes great, no, some just ok, some stuff is better than others, some is pretty darn good.
There will always be people who for some reason think you can't load good pistol ammo unless it is on a Blue press.
I have a LNL progressive and a Lee turret. I like both.
Both are capable of making ammo that shoots as good as I can.
Some people doubt the numbers people get on Lee turrets, all people are different, I for one am not going to say what someone else can or cannot do.
From Dillons web site
Truly the state of the art, our XL650 features automatic indexing and is capable of producing up to 800 rounds per hour, or more if you are using both the case and bullet feeders.
800 rounds per hour with no case of bullet feeder?
So it holds 800 primers??? Nope, One would assume it takes some time to add primers or change tubes, and it has to take time to fill the tubes. Maybe we just don't count that time.
(Different numbers for an LNL progressive but same thing, not to single Dillon out)
I wonder how long it would take to stab 500s primers into 1 tube by hand for my LNL(that's what it came with one tube of each size, from the manual a 650 appears to be the same).
Sorry I just don't see stabbing 800 primers in an hour and getting 800 rounds loaded in the same hour.
I never practiced stabbing primers a lot so I never got fast at it.
I'm sure most people don't fill 1 tube by hand but that's what the press comes with......
So those numbers are not real numbers, since they are quoted for the press but it does not come with the things necessary to make it possible.
Don't see people mention this often.
I have never used a Dillon but I am sure they are fine machines, lots of people like them, so I am not trying to bash Dillon as I pointed out Hornady's #s for an LNL take liberties as well.
In the end it does not matter how fast it is as long as it is fast enough for you and your needs, it does not matter if other people hate the brand as long as it works for you and you like it.
Anyway I am straying from the High Road so to get back on track,
Fast is also not necessarily what it is all about.
On a empty golf course I might be able to play 18 holes in 2.5 hours if I rushed (and had a good cart), but would I want to?
Probably would not find trying to do it real relaxing or enjoyable.
Some people see reloading as cranking out enough rounds for the next match, others enjoy it and find it relaxing, rushing to crank out rounds is not relaxing to me.
I reload at a moderate volume so one month I might shoot 500 rounds another I might shoot 3000 but my presses are fast enough for my needs so I take my time and enjoy reloading.
It seems like Lee is having some issues with the new little progressive press, but is getting them worked out, only time will tell.
(I still think Lee should have sent out a couple hundred to THR members for beta testing....are you listing LEE
free beta testers waiting to sign up!)