Lengthening stock of 30 M1 Carbine

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Does anyone know of a stock extension or slip-on pad specifically designed for .30 M1 Carbine stocks? Mine is factory length and it's just too short for me to use properly.

I'm looking for something easy and simple to install, not a grind-to-fit.
 
Pro tip

Stack washers of same thickness and quantity under the metal butt plate.

Ugly.... yes

Works
 
The battle rifles of WWII were designed to be fired when wearing a battle dress uniform and possibly winter combat clothing.! Likewise the AK47 or SKS.
Wear some clothes!
A turtle neck or a button down collar will keep the hot brass off the neck or under your shirt!
With your winter jacket on, the stock will fit, and recoil greatly mitigated.
I use a shooting jacket when shooting the various milsurps and find the recoil of a .30/06 to be only mildly irritating… from a 8lb 03-A3, and not at all objectionable from a 10lb M1, and negligible from an 11lb P17 Enfield…
The M1 Carbine resembles a 10/22’s recoil…
 
GooseGestapo said:
With your winter jacket on, the stock will fit, and recoil greatly mitigated.
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No, it won't. I need an additional 1 3/4" of pull. I'd have to wear about 5 coats! And I live in the South....🙄

By the way, the distance from heel to toe on the but is too small for slip-on pads to fit.
 
Sounds like youre going to have to make some sort of spacer on your own. 1.75" of correction is a major jump.

I assume you have issues with all the guns with a combat or older iron sight stocked LOP. Most all of them are the same and right around 12.5-13". Even the newer rifles that add a 1" recoil pad to their stocks would come up short.
 
trackskippy said:
Sounds like youre going to have to make some sort of spacer on your own. 1.75" of correction is a major jump.

I assume you have issues with all the guns with a combat or older iron sight stocked LOP. Most all of them are the same and right around 12.5-13". Even the newer rifles that add a 1" recoil pad to their stocks would come up short.
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Yep.
 
You might check aftermarket stocks also. Sometime they have in stock items that need to move and sell at reduced prices. Boyds may have something but I haven't checked to see if for a m1 carbine.
 
Why does everyone have to have a firearm that fits them?

I've been an instructor for almost 50 years. You.can shoot well with any grip or stock if you want to.

Did SGT York say that 1917 stock and 1911 grip not fit me? Did Audie Murphy say that M1 Carbine and M2 50 Caliber not fit me? Did Roger Donlon say all.the weapons I used that got me nominated for the Medal of Honor not.fit me.

Military weapons are not made to fit anyone in particular.
 
It’s a M1 Carbine. It is supposed to have a short stock. 6.1 million M1 carbines, (and 5.4 million M1 rifles), all with short stocks.

Any unauthorized modifications on either of these M1s constitutes a Bubbaization.

It starts with extended buttpads, moves into drilling and tapping for a huge scope, adds a shiny thumb hole stock, gives it a high polish blue job, and next thing you know you’re in the shop grinding off the sights.

It is a piece of history, not a custom target rifle. Enjoy it for what it is.

The only way to make a M1 carbine any cooler involves the installation of 10 (USGI) parts, but…. then it’s not a M1 any more.;)
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GRIZ22 said:
Why does everyone have to have a firearm that fits them?

I've been an instructor for almost 50 years. You.can shoot well with any grip or stock if you want to.

Did SGT York say that 1917 stock and 1911 grip not fit me? Did Audie Murphy say that M1 Carbine and M2 50 Caliber not fit me? Did Roger Donlon say all.the weapons I used that got me nominated for the Medal of Honor not.fit me.

Military weapons are not made to fit anyone in particular.
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I cannot seat the butt into my shoulder and align the sights with my eye. The only way I can make the alignment is to hold the rifle a couple of inches out in front of me! The issue isn't only length of pull, it's also drop-at-heel. The gun was designed to fit someone who was about 5'4" tall, and I guess back then, a lot of men were. But people are taller nowadays.

My wife is about 5'2" or 5'3", so the gun will fit her, and I hope to use it to train her in shooting. I don't plan to alter the stock permanently, I just want to shoot about 200 rounds through it so I can have the brass for reloading.
 
Savage30L said:
Limbsaver is a grind-to-fit, which I don't want.
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Not all Limbsaverd are grind to fit. If you do some research, you may find a model that will fit.

Is your not wanting a grind to fit more about appearances or your just not wanting to do it? If you are more concerned about function than you are about form, you should be able to rig something up using nylon spacers from a hardware store or just a piece of 2x4. Making a stock spacer is easy.
 
I've got a choate pistol grip stock in the closet I was was given one time that has a longer LOP. I ran it with a scout scope for a little while. it was a more functional gun, but it wasn't an m1 carbine, so I put it back or original (ish) and grind to fit pads aren't super hard to do. screw on, scribe line, take off, apply to belt sander.
 
Try facing the target more or less head on and putting the buttstock interior of your shoulder pocket, more to the centerline of your body on your pectoral muscle, rather than bladed off to the target with the stock partially touching your arm. Are you freakishly tall or something? I’m 6’3” and have no issues shooting my M1 Carbines 🤷‍♂️
 
Just out of curiosity here, how are you shouldering the rifle? The 13" LOP is pretty much the standard/norm for military rifles of all countries. If you have issues with the Carbine, you must have the same issue with any of the other rifles of the type, auto or bolt.

If anything, today's commercial rifles LOP's are overly long, and more meant for shooting off a rest than shouldering and shooting on your feet or in a field position.

Where is your cheek weld on the stock when you have the rifle in your shoulder?
 
I'm not freakishly tall, I'm 5'11". If I shoulder the gun I cannot get my cheek close enough to the stock to get a cheek weld. I have to put the toe of the butt on top of my shoulder to make cheek contact.
 
trackskippy said:
If anything, today's commercial rifles LOP's are overly long, and more meant for shooting off a rest than shouldering and shooting on your feet or in a field position.
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No, they aren't! They're all too short!

A good length of pull for me is 15" to 15 1/4", depending upon grip configuration, for a shotgun. I can make do with a little less on a rifle, but not with a 13" stock.
 
Ive never seen a "factory" stock with an LOP anywhere near that long. Even the current factory stocks with a recoil pad are right around 13" "without" the pad and around 14" with it.

Im having a hard time picturing what youre saying here on how you're shouldering the gun too. When the rifle is in your shoulder, is your head down on the stock and your cheek weld right there where the comb breaks into the grip? Why are you holding the rear of the stock up so high?
 
By the way, as an aside here, one thing I learned during my tenure as a sales clerk at Bud's (after looking at one form 4473 after another all day long), was that most men who are under 6' in height, exaggerate their heights by 2 or 3 inches when they self-report. Most men are not as tall as they claim to be. And by "most", I mean something like 95%. That was a real surprise to me.
 
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