Let's Help John Stossel

[hecate]

He published an op-ed on RealClearPolitics called "Guns Save Lives" and the anti's are ripping him up in the Comments section.

http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/24578.html

 

[CountGlockula]

I gave my comment!

John Stossel for president!

 

[romma]

Done!

 

[Okee]

Posted reply

 

[oda226]

Done

 

[357fan]

Done, post #157.

 

[Phil DeGraves]

And now we're ripping up the antis.

 

[Crow1108]

Done. #171.

 

[Ricebrnr]

me too # 172

"Ask a Police officer who has to approach every traffic violation knowing that there is a better than even chance a weapon is involved"

Any good officer with an once of self protection instincts would assume this. As good people many of you identify with the police officers and not the bad guys.

Imagine this same statement from a violent offender's point of view...

Ask any criminal who is trolling for a victim, knowing there is a better than even chance they are armed? They don't like it not by a long shot.

Remember when all guns are illegal, only criminals will have guns. And when its YOU in trouble and seconds count, help is only minutes away.

Very likely at that point there may be an epiphany, those that don't have it wait to die, those that do find the will to fight to live.

This is why a few hijackers with knives will never again be able to take a planeload of passengers hostage. Now that its in national consciousness, people won't sit like sheep waiting to be rescued. How is personal responsibility and personal defense on the street any different?

 

[jwxspoon]

Done #147

 

[cpg]

post 174

http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/24578/26148.html#msg-26148

rgr, post 174, thought I would have a little fun as well as make a point and tried to keep it short.

Everyone on this site should post there, show our strength in numbers.

Thanks

Chris

 

[arflattop]

done! Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Werewolf]

My post:

You know...

The one thing all you utopian, pink sky, anti-gun, depend on the government for protection, hope the cops show up in time when the poop hits the fan, and wanna take all the guns away forget is:

You don't have any guns - but we do - all 80,000,000 of us. If even 1% of us decide to say no you're gonna have one heck of a fight on your hands and odds are you guys will not, cannot win.

Not very High Road I know. But after reading the overwhelming amount of total BS posted by all those helpless liberals I just couldn't help myself.

 

[drtworks]

Thanks for the heads up, hecate. #181!

 

[41magsnub]

done!

 

[skua44]

yup, did it.

 

[Chipperman]

Be sure to cut and paste the link.
We don't want them to see all the Pro-gun traffic coming directly from here.

 

[lanternlad1]

I love this line someone wrote: "Remember towns in the old west where you had to give up your gun? Was that unconstitutional? No."

Ummm...yes it was. Just because the a democratic election makes a law, does not mean that that law is Constitutionally correct. Just look at the overturn of the San Fran handgun ban lately, and the DC gun ban. Just because you can make up laws doesn't make them right.

 

[iamkris]

Done

Comment #207

 

[Hoffy]

Done!

 

[Diamondback]

Done......and thanks for the "heads up" !!

- regards

 

[IndianaBoy]

Oh lord... I don't know who posted this. But it is funny.

Agreed. Every citizen should have the right to bear a muzzle loading long rifle, or single shot sidearm, sword or long knife. These are the weapons to which the framers were referring.

Well, then, sir, I'm going to have to insist that you be silent here, upon the electric web!

You may speaketh over there on ye olde soape boxe, or printeth thy tracte with many turns of the hande cranked presse, and passeth out thine bills upon the streetes.

ijit.

 

[Treo]

Here's my post

At the Vann Marr store in Omaha the first police unit to arrive was at the store 6 minutes after the first 911 call. The shooter had been dead for about 4 minutes.

New Life Church hires off-duty police officers to direct traffic at every service. There were police IN THE PARKING LOT when the shooter opened fire. before the cops in the parking lot were even notified by 911 dispatch that there was a shooting in progress , the shooter was killed by a private citizen who holds a Colorado Concealed Handgun Permit.

The idea that only cops need guns is a self evident fallacy. the reason that cops DO NEED guns is because criminals DON'T obey gun laws.

Last point I spent 7 years working in a machine shop, if you ban & confiscate my guns. How are you going to stop me making another? ban all guns / kill all machinists? You can't ban guns because you can't ban knowlege. they're here and the bad guys have them please don't take my means of defending my family.

And I'd like to add a small critique
I suggest we drop the "sheep" refferences & the overly technical discriptions . My last suggesstian is to drop the "If I catch you in MY house I'm gonna blow your monkey ass away" comments they're EXACTLY what the antis expect, if we go after their arguments & leave the personal attacks to them we could actually come out of this lokking real good

 

[TCB in TN]

Done!

 

[IndianaBoy]

My response:

Most of what I was going to say has been covered by others already, so I will be brief.


The ultimate intent of the 2nd amendment was to give the populace teeth against a tyrannical government. It is listed in the Bill of Rights, which exists to outline rights of the people. It does NOT give people rights, it merely lists a few of the rights which it would be considered most egregious for the government to trample. There was a lot of fierce debate over whether the Bill of Rights should even be included in the Constitution because the powers not previously outlined in the document were reserved to the states, and the people.

Given the actual intent of the framers, the populace should be able to own whatever type of firearms will enable them to keep those in power in Washington from getting too big for their britches. Those who attempt to turn the debate to foolishness using reductio ad absurdum while referencing nuclear weapons are trying mighty hard to further an agenda that they know holds no legal or moral basis.


Those who reference Australia and the UK as gun free utopias clearly haven't examined any violent crime statistics after the passage of such bans. Now they are looking at banning knives. Are they going to eventually wrap whole nations in foam rubber, and toss all rocks over 1/5 kilogram into the oceans?

Self defense is a human right. Advocating a ban on firearms of any kind is feel-good nonsense that will have no beneficial effect on crime rates.

I failed in my goal to be brief, and I am going to stop now before I ramble on beyond what anyone is willing to read.