Let's talk about modern inline muzzleloaders
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Kaeto
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Flintlock only.
donparadowski
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@ DR1445: I think you nailed it on that point.
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All rise......a few Judge Mentals are in the building. Concerned with the business of others for no good reason at all.....just their own personal spite.
Just another way to divide hunters, I see. Way to go, haters. This is the tactic the anti's love to use on us.....divide and conquer has worked wonders for the copper bullet industry with their lead bans. So are inlines next? Then what?
People shooting one sort of gun, teaming up on people shooting another sort of gun, for no other reason than they don't like that that gun, isn't their gun. Grow up.
Personally, I bought my inline muzzleloader to use for year-around hunting as my main hunting arm. I can hunt with whatever gun I want here, yet I chose an inline muzzleloader for it's ability to shoot a big, heavy, non-expanding boolit I can make myself that takes game down FAST, flexibility and availability of loading components, ability to easily clean, it's being well suited for the use of a scope (key to ethical shot placement in low-light conditions), the ability to make my own boolits and propellent, and last but not least I am a single-shot hunter at heart.
I would get the same ballistic performance out of a sidelock, as I would an inline if I simply put a scope on that sidelock. The inline is simply easier to clean/maintain/carry than the sidelock, and designed in a somewhat more modular fashion.
To buy a real nice inline, is probably much cheaper than buying an equally nice sidelock IMO. I'm talking the really nice ones.
I didn't put in for any muzzleloader tags, because my muzzleloader isn't legal for those seasons. This muzzleloader was designed for using a scope (a great tool for putting a good shot on a critter in the thick, dark PNW rain forest), and isn't even tapped for open sights because of this. Open sights won't work on this gun.
I bought this muzzleloader to hunt Mountain Lion on the wet-side of Oregon, along with other big game. Hopefully using a self-cast boolit, self-made Black Powder, and a musket cap. Cause that is my style!
Watch for me in the muzzleloading record books in the Mountain Lion section....that's my aim.
Just another way to divide hunters, I see. Way to go, haters. This is the tactic the anti's love to use on us.....divide and conquer has worked wonders for the copper bullet industry with their lead bans. So are inlines next? Then what?
People shooting one sort of gun, teaming up on people shooting another sort of gun, for no other reason than they don't like that that gun, isn't their gun. Grow up.
Personally, I bought my inline muzzleloader to use for year-around hunting as my main hunting arm. I can hunt with whatever gun I want here, yet I chose an inline muzzleloader for it's ability to shoot a big, heavy, non-expanding boolit I can make myself that takes game down FAST, flexibility and availability of loading components, ability to easily clean, it's being well suited for the use of a scope (key to ethical shot placement in low-light conditions), the ability to make my own boolits and propellent, and last but not least I am a single-shot hunter at heart.
I would get the same ballistic performance out of a sidelock, as I would an inline if I simply put a scope on that sidelock. The inline is simply easier to clean/maintain/carry than the sidelock, and designed in a somewhat more modular fashion.
To buy a real nice inline, is probably much cheaper than buying an equally nice sidelock IMO. I'm talking the really nice ones.
I didn't put in for any muzzleloader tags, because my muzzleloader isn't legal for those seasons. This muzzleloader was designed for using a scope (a great tool for putting a good shot on a critter in the thick, dark PNW rain forest), and isn't even tapped for open sights because of this. Open sights won't work on this gun.
I bought this muzzleloader to hunt Mountain Lion on the wet-side of Oregon, along with other big game. Hopefully using a self-cast boolit, self-made Black Powder, and a musket cap. Cause that is my style!
Watch for me in the muzzleloading record books in the Mountain Lion section....that's my aim.
BullRunBear
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Butcher45, I believe the responses on the thread are expressing preferences, not a condemnation of one system or the other. No hate involved. One of the things I like about The High Road is that matters seldom get nasty.
Good luck with that state record mountain lion. And please post about any of your hunts. I haven't hunted in many years but enjoy reading about BP hunting trips.
Jeff
Good luck with that state record mountain lion. And please post about any of your hunts. I haven't hunted in many years but enjoy reading about BP hunting trips.
Jeff
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I have to say, I really respect a guy that would use his inline to hunt as Butcher does. Using an inline during regular seasons seems to me to be a worthwhile endeavor. I think most of the negativity here and elsewhere concerning hunting with inlines only relates to using of them in traditional muzzleloading hunts where folks seem to consider them as sort of....ah...cheating? Or maybe taking unfair advantage of the season.
I hope you do great with your mountain lion hunts and hope you post some results here.
I hope you do great with your mountain lion hunts and hope you post some results here.
midland man
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lol I bet them ol'e technology guns of yesteryear would take care of them mountain lions 
what ya'll think??
what ya'll think??
Panzerschwein
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I agree too MM.lol I bet them ol'e technology guns of yesteryear would take care of them mountain lions
For muzzleloader-only hunts, I am leaning towards a sidelock in .54 (i I can find one I can afford). I'd still put a scope on it, and hunt other stuff with it though from time to time I'm sure. Scopes make for more ethical shots.
"Butcher45, I believe the responses on the thread are expressing preferences, not a condemnation of one system or the other. No hate involved."-BullRunBear
Not a condemnation.......no hate involved......really? All these quotes are from this thread.......i suppose we will have to agree to disagree. I think hate has been so ingrained into our culture during the last 8 years, that people often cannot recognize it anymore.
"The guns are just a get around for Modern Rifle hunters that want in on the BP season.
inlines are an insult to muzzleloader/primitive hunting season"
"understand 99% of the people these guns are sold to aren't in it for the challenge or sport of real black powder shooting. They're in it so they can get another shot at harvesting a deer and they want to do it in as close a way as with a modern sporting rifle as possible. As somebody once said- inlines are muzzleloaders for people who don't like muzzleloaders."
"The modern inlines are all about selling to the cartridge gun shooters who want the extended ML deer season. And want something as close to a cartridge gun as possible."
"They're gross."
"Anything to make killing easier is the goal. Not faster or more pleasant or more affordable, just easier."
None of that giant load of garbage applies to me. NONE OF IT. I own an inline.
"Butcher45, I believe the responses on the thread are expressing preferences, not a condemnation of one system or the other. No hate involved."-BullRunBear
Not a condemnation.......no hate involved......really? All these quotes are from this thread.......i suppose we will have to agree to disagree. I think hate has been so ingrained into our culture during the last 8 years, that people often cannot recognize it anymore.
"The guns are just a get around for Modern Rifle hunters that want in on the BP season.
inlines are an insult to muzzleloader/primitive hunting season"
"understand 99% of the people these guns are sold to aren't in it for the challenge or sport of real black powder shooting. They're in it so they can get another shot at harvesting a deer and they want to do it in as close a way as with a modern sporting rifle as possible. As somebody once said- inlines are muzzleloaders for people who don't like muzzleloaders."
"The modern inlines are all about selling to the cartridge gun shooters who want the extended ML deer season. And want something as close to a cartridge gun as possible."
"They're gross."
"Anything to make killing easier is the goal. Not faster or more pleasant or more affordable, just easier."
None of that giant load of garbage applies to me. NONE OF IT. I own an inline.
donparadowski
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Come on guys! Let's not cross the line into personal insults (not there quit yet...I hope). We all want to go out and shoot something as humanely and quickly as possible. Isn’t that the real bottom line? This creature of Nature ends up giving itself to feeding our families and ourselves! Why not make it a quick death?
I accept the fact that something must die in order for me and mine to live. I wish as often as possible to harvest my food myself. It is nice to know where it came from and approximately what it was eating…The least I can do is snuff out the critter quickly. In reality when we go to the grocer, we are just paying someone else to do our food “gathering”.
I accept the fact that something must die in order for me and mine to live. I wish as often as possible to harvest my food myself. It is nice to know where it came from and approximately what it was eating…The least I can do is snuff out the critter quickly. In reality when we go to the grocer, we are just paying someone else to do our food “gathering”.
donparadowski
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So true Gary.
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I dunno. My first bp rifle was an inline after moving up from an old army. I came across this one in a forum, I think. Built by Fred Sinclair as a personal gun. .50 RB, 2oz trigger.
It makes a ragged hole at 100, 5 shot groups. As good as my big bench guns and is the reason I became mildly obsessed with bench rifles, redfield sights and accuracy
Not all inlines are equal, I still feel this has an old soul
It makes a ragged hole at 100, 5 shot groups. As good as my big bench guns and is the reason I became mildly obsessed with bench rifles, redfield sights and accuracy
Not all inlines are equal, I still feel this has an old soul
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I appreciate the history and tradition of muzzleloaders . I have 2 Hawken style rifles . But for hunting I prefer a inline , easy to load and unload , easy to clean , and easy to scope . Here our ML season only last 2 weeks and I only get to hunt about 4 days during ML season , so I like to make things as simple as I can , with the best chance of harvesting a big buck .
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Thank you. Beded action in fiberglass stock, hollow out for adding weight. It will probably be the only inline I will own. ]
I have yet to see lead-free roundball or maxi.
No ML season here, just ML special draw zones. Must be lead-free. 1x scope with permission only.
The way mine is setup I can only use it during regular season.
I like traditional and inlines, but favor the inline more. Much easier to clean. Much lighter. Large selection of sabots to choose from. With good glass can take a low light shot with more confidence.
But to each their own. Haters gonna hate and been enough of that in this thread against inlines.
No ML season here, just ML special draw zones. Must be lead-free. 1x scope with permission only.
The way mine is setup I can only use it during regular season.
I like traditional and inlines, but favor the inline more. Much easier to clean. Much lighter. Large selection of sabots to choose from. With good glass can take a low light shot with more confidence.
But to each their own. Haters gonna hate and been enough of that in this thread against inlines.
doubleh
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I'm in the "it's your money, spend it how you want". If inlines float your boat then get after it.
Aldognovvvaaa
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or similar type ignition the phrase on which modern muzzleloaders can themselves be counted as antiques or primitive weapons or a replica of an antique that uses similar type ignition not made for conventional fixed amunition..... This confuses most people the point is it loads by the muzzel and has a separate primer and a scope all were available pre 1898 and are considered replicas of an antique a cva wolf,3 777 pellets and a 209 cap Daniel boon would be proud.
I can't imagine Daniel Boone choosing a Hawken, over a modern Inline had he been given the choice.
Why would he? He was a "modern-day survivor" back in his time......he was not a 'traditionalist".
I'll be running musket caps in my inline......should be the best all-around ignition for what the loads I want to use (209 primers are often said to blow the boolit off the charge prematurely, and create more of a crud ring with 777). Gonna use mostly cast lead, hopefully a nice accurate bore-sized conical. The scope is going nowhere lol Daniel Boone would have loved a scoped rifle for sure! Why wouldn't he?
Why would he? He was a "modern-day survivor" back in his time......he was not a 'traditionalist".
I'll be running musket caps in my inline......should be the best all-around ignition for what the loads I want to use (209 primers are often said to blow the boolit off the charge prematurely, and create more of a crud ring with 777). Gonna use mostly cast lead, hopefully a nice accurate bore-sized conical. The scope is going nowhere lol Daniel Boone would have loved a scoped rifle for sure! Why wouldn't he?
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As my friend once said, "Daniel Boone would have used a cell phone."
One thing about "Ole Dan" is that he'd make sure there were plenty of primers for him lest he walk around with a club instead of a gonne. That's why Davy Crockett opted for a flintlock when he went to TX.
One thing about "Ole Dan" is that he'd make sure there were plenty of primers for him lest he walk around with a club instead of a gonne. That's why Davy Crockett opted for a flintlock when he went to TX.
donparadowski
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My sentiments also. Not to mention a ball point pen, BIC lighter, and a car.
Musket caps could probably light a cigar at the other end of barrel. One thing to keep in mind with black powder, you don't have to blow it up, you only have to ignite it... and being an inline, a #11 cap will do just fine. In fact, a #11 cap will serve you better with an inline in the elements, if it is exposed like it is on my Whites. The only thing musket caps have going for them is that they at least are easy to remove and don't generally wind up in pieces.
Musket caps also will clear out any oil or debris left in the chamber if you clear your muzzleloader (like you should) before loading. I prefer musket caps myself, but #11's have nothing to be shy of in an inline.
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