Lever action, subsonic, hog capable. Is there a rifle that can answer the call?

[lobo9er]

I think this is a picture of a bolt action 45 acp with silencer.

 

[lobo9er]

A 45 acp cx4, but not a lever action.

 

[marv]

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
1. Doesn't a supersonic bullet have to travel a fairly long distance over open terrain to produce the crack?
2. Aren't hogs generally shot at close range in brush/woods?
If these are true, sonic shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Maverick223]

I think this is a picture of a bolt action 45 acp with silencer.

That there is a De Lisle carbine...sweet little rifle, but good luck finding one.

 

[Dirty Bob]

Why does everything nowadays have to have a "can" and be subsonic?

There is a middle ground. Some of my subsonic .45 Colt loads sound about like a .22LR (or less) out of my rifle. My local range is in a suburban area, so if I want to shoot early in the day, I want to be considerate of the neighbors and keep the noise level down.

Also, Ed Harris has written about the effect on a bullet when it goes from super- to subsonic. A round that is subsonic from muzzle to target wouldn't have this issue. I don't have experience in this. Anyone?

Regards,
Dirty Bob

 

[rcmodel]

1. Doesn't a supersonic bullet have to travel a fairly long distance over open terrain to produce the crack?

No. I can assure you a 30-06 Browning Machinegun produces bullet crack at a range of 25 yards or less while you are crawling through barb wire and mud right in front of one!

2. Aren't hogs generally shot at close range in brush/woods?
If these are true, sonic shouldn't be an issue.

The advantage would be the other hogs in a herd would not become alarmed at a shot or bullet crack and run off.
They might stick around to see why one of thier buddys just flopped over dead. And give you enough time to get another shot.

rc

 

[Float Pilot]

Any 45-70 load can be worked down to make it sub-sonic.
I have loaded 500 and 550 grain slugs into my Browning 1886 and worked the loads down to the 1,100 fps range. Heck with Trail Boss I even got a 405 grain bullet down to 990 fps and it was VERY quiet.
It is nice for hunting in areas where some houses may be close enough to hear the rifle report. 200 yards away, the low velocity 405 grain loads with Trail Boss sounded more like somebody using a hammer on a roofing project.

 

[CraigC]

The advantage would be the other hogs in a herd would not become alarmed at a shot or bullet crack and run off.

I agree. In areas where you want to exterminate as many as possible, as quickly as possible, a suppressed rifle may prove to be a serious advantage. Hogs may not even react to the shot at all, or at least not judge it as a threat. A skilled rifleman with a suppressed big bore levergun would be able to pop a lot of pork in one sitting. Where do I sign up???

 

[Maverick223]

Where do I sign up?

+1; it's plenty hot here, so I could do without the added heat and humidity, but it really makes me want to take a "working vacation" down south to "aid the local communities eradicate the pestilence".

 

[RugerMcMarlin]

Distance doesn't have anything to do with sonic crack, the minute the bullet hits the air, faster than the speed of sound, at that altitude, it will crack. You can do that with a bull whip! I don't get the silencer unless your hunting in town?!!

Otherwise you have done a fair job of describing every 30/30 in the country.

The Delisle carbine in the photo was designed for dispatching sentries. Don't know how it would be on 400 lb tuskers!

A 500 grain bullet at 900fps, sounds like a perfect recipe for a B-- A-- richochet ! that will go flippin off like an on sides kick. If your out in the sticks, non issue. If your close enough to town that a suppressor is a help, holy @#$.