dustind
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Spending money on a service that everyone receives, and has a vote on the matter is different than robbing from one person to give to another. Both are theft, but one is less prone to abuse.
Civilizations have fallen because 51%+ of the people where able to vote for the other 49%'s money. You can only take so much for the military before people say enough, and start cutting back, because we are all in the same boat. Depending on need some will want it bigger, some smaller, many will not care. That percent in each of the three groups varies by size vs need of the military. The bigger it gets, the more want it smaller, and vise versa. Like all bureaucracies, the people working in it are looking out for themselves more than their department, but that is only a few people, unlike welfare.
With welfare, people will always want more, and welfare breeds poverty. Politicians can also use welfare, and other types of government pork to buy votes. The vote buying effect is huge, and becomes the number one reason behind most welfare decisions a politician makes.
My reply to this thread as a whole is. Libertarians are trying to get freedom, not a better socialism. Pointing out small day to day problems with socialism and the nanny state, and fixing them is not what we are about.
Civilizations have fallen because 51%+ of the people where able to vote for the other 49%'s money. You can only take so much for the military before people say enough, and start cutting back, because we are all in the same boat. Depending on need some will want it bigger, some smaller, many will not care. That percent in each of the three groups varies by size vs need of the military. The bigger it gets, the more want it smaller, and vise versa. Like all bureaucracies, the people working in it are looking out for themselves more than their department, but that is only a few people, unlike welfare.
With welfare, people will always want more, and welfare breeds poverty. Politicians can also use welfare, and other types of government pork to buy votes. The vote buying effect is huge, and becomes the number one reason behind most welfare decisions a politician makes.
My reply to this thread as a whole is. Libertarians are trying to get freedom, not a better socialism. Pointing out small day to day problems with socialism and the nanny state, and fixing them is not what we are about.