Limited help or help with limited

[lordpaxman]

I’ve gone and done it. A friend had a limited setup that I purchased and I want to get classified before October. I’m currently classified in production and CO.
The setup is an Infinity in .40, and a Safari land 014. I’ve never had a locking holster or shot an ‘11 in competition so, I have been dry firing and just wanted to run my practice past you guys and see if it’s ok. Assume the gun is hammer down, holstered and locked.

Make Ready:
-unlock holster
-wrists below belt
-draw and take a sight picture real time
-retrieve mag farthest back on belt (assume 4 mags full)
-insert mag, chamber a round, thumb safety on
-drop mag and place back in holder
-retrieve full mag from magnet and insert
-holster gun
-impatiently wait…..

I’m comfortable with ULSC, so just a couple of questions:
?At the start I want a full gun, so should I purchase another mag for a Barny mag, or just do the above?
?A Barny mag makes it easy to know if the round got stripped. A full mag, not so easy unless you sharpie the top round, and make sure it’s gone.
?I use a barny in the other classes, so it’d be better for muscle memory, as I don’t like doing a press check.
?Any other advice?
AdThanksVance!

 

[NC9mm]

How many mags on your belt?
In limited, assuming 17 rounds per magazine at minimum, it isn’t necessary to have more than 3 magazines on you belt considering average round counts today.
I usually start with a magazine in my hand when I am told to make ready and if I Barney a round I place it into my rear pouch and use that mag, if not just start with that mag.
Usually having a 20 round mag capacity, I find it rare that there is a need to Barney a round in limited.

 

[Hoser]

Depends on the stage... That will tell me if I need to cram that 20+1 combo in my pistol.

 

[Jim Watson]

Most of the Limited shooters I see use their third magazine for a Barney round, if the CoF makes it helpful, or just out of habit.

I am shooting mostly L 10 for reasons of component supply, so I carry a Barney magazine in my left pocket. It seldom gets shot, but I am keeping the habit for when I shoot IDPA where it is required.

 

[lordpaxman]

Thanks all for the replies.

How many mags on your belt?

I’ve got 4 mags to play with. One in the gun, three on the belt. While I agree if you can’t get it done with that number of rounds, something is wrong, it could be a mag issue or just a dropped mag so I’ll run at least three on the belt.

 

[PWC]

For the benefit of those of us that don't play that game, what is a Barney?

 

[Jim Watson]

A Barney is a spare magazine used to load the chamber with so you can insert a full magazine to "top up" with a minimum of gun and ammo handling.

 

[mcb]

I typically walk up to the start position with 4 magazines when shooting Limited. Count from front to back, I put magazine 3 in the gun and chamber a round, return Magazine 3 to its holder and load magazine 4 into the gun and holster. If I get to magazine 3 from my belt in the stage things have gone pear-shaped and that extra round is unlikely to make a difference. Once you have done it a few time you will get the feel for it and won't need to mark or otherwise indicate you got a round when initially making ready. You will feel it and know you handgun is loaded.

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast... Focus first on being safe, second on getting good hits on targets (misses are score killers), third plan your reloads and path through the stage. The speed comes from practice, doing the first three things more and more until they are second nature.

 

[PWC]

A Barney is a spare magazine used to load the chamber with so you can insert a full magazine to "top up" with a minimum of gun and ammo handling.

Thanks....I wondered how you got that purple dinosaur in there.....

 

[Jim Watson]

Barney Fife, that is.

 

[PWC]

Barney Fife, that is.

NOW, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!

Tks again.

 

[lordpaxman]

NOW, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!

Tks again.

I now know your age.

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast...

Yes, but at some point one progresses beyond “see target shoot target” and needs to change the DVC percentages. I’m in need of professional help , I just haven’t found any class that I feel would be worth it yet.
@mcb, if your holster locks, at what point do you unlock it?

 

[NC9mm]

]Slow is smooth, smooth is fast...[/QUOTE]

I have seen many smooth shooting people that are slow and never will get faster, always shooting the same speed ending up in the same relative standings after the match. They never push themselves because they are afraid of hitting a couple more C’s instead of smooth shooting Alphas

 

[mcb]

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast...

I have seem many smooth shooting people that are slow and never will get faster, always shooting the same speed ending up in the same relative standings after the match. They never push themselves because they are afraid of hitting a couple more C’s instead of smooth shooting Alphas

"If you can't do it slow you can't do it fast."

The opposite is also true you see competitors trying too hard to go fast and end up not smooth with lots of wasted motion, over shooting positions, accuracy deteriorates, missing targets/positions completely, etc. And actually costing themselves more time then if they had gone just a touch slower and stayed smooth and efficient.

I always worked from slow to fast, increasing my speed until something went wrong and then dialed it back a touch, and worked on technique again, and then started dialing up the speed until I broke something else, rinse repeat. It's all about being super efficient and that is frequently not only about raw speed. You can shoot the occasional Major Charlie fast enough to still win but you can't with Deltas and Mikes.