Has anybody else seen this?
http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=1911B&category=Pistol
How about that huh?
http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=1911B&category=Pistol
How about that huh?
Looks like everybody is in the 1911 game now...
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Black Majik
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I remember seeing the first "spy pics" of the Taurus 1911, and it looked horrendous. The funky looking trigger guard, and the overly blocky shape of the gun.
I gotta admit though, after clicking that link, it does look pretty good..... for a Taurus
Not bad. I'm impressed. Looks like most of the bells and whistles too. Internal extractor! Good job Taurus.
I gotta admit though, after clicking that link, it does look pretty good..... for a Taurus
Not bad. I'm impressed. Looks like most of the bells and whistles too. Internal extractor! Good job Taurus.
brickboy240
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I have seen detailed photos of these and they look pretty darned good. If they're anything like the Taurus copies of the Winchester pump-rifles and Colt Single Acrion Army, it ought to be a pretty decent pistol. I'll bet its competitively priced like all Taurus guns usually are.
Taurus is building some pretty nice guns these days. I am considering one of their Colt Lightning copies...they look really sweet!
_brickboy240
(thank God theres no external extractor!!)
Taurus is building some pretty nice guns these days. I am considering one of their Colt Lightning copies...they look really sweet!
_brickboy240
(thank God theres no external extractor!!)
Chipperman
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MSRP $599. That means they will prolly sell for at least $100-150 less than that.
Looks like they'll at least give Rock Island and Charles Daly some low-end 1911 competition. If they work well, they'll cut into Springfield's Mil-Spec turf also.
Looks like they'll at least give Rock Island and Charles Daly some low-end 1911 competition. If they work well, they'll cut into Springfield's Mil-Spec turf also.
Sergeant Sabre
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the Taurus web site said:
I wonder why they are only building an aluminum-framed pistol?
BusMaster007
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I'll hold out for a BERETTA 1911 like that's ever gonna happen!
like that's ever gonna happen!Standing Wolf
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You mean even Ruger is making model 1911s now? Is there room enough on the slide for all its legal-ese?
Krag
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Will Glock introduce a 1911 pistol anytime soon? 
No, why retrogress to 19th century technology when you are the leader of the 21st century handgun industry.
It's so easy to fall back upon established technology rather then develop new. Personally I find it disappointing that so many handgun manufacturers have taken the easy way out to the detriment of advancements in handgun technology.
No, why retrogress to 19th century technology when you are the leader of the 21st century handgun industry.
It's so easy to fall back upon established technology rather then develop new. Personally I find it disappointing that so many handgun manufacturers have taken the easy way out to the detriment of advancements in handgun technology.
Plumber576
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I'm just waiting for for a HK 1911...that'll do it for me.
wally
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JMB basically got the handgun right in 1911, everything else since is dubious solutions to imagined deficiencies.
The widebody high capacity would have been an improvement, except the mags send reliabilty down the toilet. Don't get me wrong, I love the widebody 1911s and have most of the major variations, but in my experience none are reliable enough to be anything but a range gun.
--wally.
The widebody high capacity would have been an improvement, except the mags send reliabilty down the toilet. Don't get me wrong, I love the widebody 1911s and have most of the major variations, but in my experience none are reliable enough to be anything but a range gun.
--wally.
chaim
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Probably because all non-polymer Taurus autos are aluminum framed. It is what they know.
I have wanted a lightweight carryable 1911 for some time but most are out of my price range. Now Taurus is putting out a 1911 with the bells and whistles of a Kimber or Springfield Loaded but priced closer to a SA Mil-spec and it is aluminum. I'm very exited. I'd be even happier if it was a 3" or 4", but I'll certainly take one in 5" when they become available in MD.
nico
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I was seriously thinking about buying one until I saw this thread. The heft of a ~39oz 1911 is a positive thing for me. I'll definitely have to handle one when they get here, but I want a steel 1911
Ala Dan
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The Taurus plant in Brazil says they won't land in the U.S. until
September of 2005?
September of 2005?
When someone makes a quality 1911 with a good trigger in the $500 price range that is as reliable and trouble free out of the box as some modern designs they will put SA and all the other so called good 1911 people out of business.
They will also take a huge share of Glock's business.
I really hope Taurus can do it.
They will also take a huge share of Glock's business.
I really hope Taurus can do it.
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First, why does everyone poo-poo the alloy frame? Doesn't Sig, Beretta and others make reliable, quality 45s with an alloy frame? Taurus makes 9mm and 40s with alloy frames and has for years. I have not heard of a rash of frame failures. Actually, quite the opposite - I have heard lots of good things about Taurus autos. I owned an early 92 Taurus and it never gave me a lick of trouble. Better location of the safety, than the 92 Beretta, too. My sig 220 is proof-positive that an alloy framed 45 auto can be a thing of beauty and very high quality and long lasting.
Second, will they give Charles Daly and Rock Island a run for their money? Better than that, Taurus offers a lifetime warranty...the others don't have that going for them. The machining on Taurus pistols is a bit better than Charles Daly's pistols...at least the ones I have seen.
Third, sorry, but many of us find the grip angle and wierd trigger of the Glock to not be condusive to good shooting. Glocks are great for some people, but some of us son't care for them. I owned a Glock 17 for 7 years and traded it for an XD and never looked back. If you like the Glock...great, but the 1911 is not a dinosaur. People like the 1911 for the same reason they like the 350CID V-8 small block Chevy engine - the damn thing just works well, period.
Yes, the Taurus 1911 could suck or it could be great...lets wait until we see and shoot these things and see. Judging by other Taurus autopistols like the PT 92-100s and the 24/7...we have no reason to believe their 1911 is going to be horrible...do we?
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Second, will they give Charles Daly and Rock Island a run for their money? Better than that, Taurus offers a lifetime warranty...the others don't have that going for them. The machining on Taurus pistols is a bit better than Charles Daly's pistols...at least the ones I have seen.
Third, sorry, but many of us find the grip angle and wierd trigger of the Glock to not be condusive to good shooting. Glocks are great for some people, but some of us son't care for them. I owned a Glock 17 for 7 years and traded it for an XD and never looked back. If you like the Glock...great, but the 1911 is not a dinosaur. People like the 1911 for the same reason they like the 350CID V-8 small block Chevy engine - the damn thing just works well, period.
Yes, the Taurus 1911 could suck or it could be great...lets wait until we see and shoot these things and see. Judging by other Taurus autopistols like the PT 92-100s and the 24/7...we have no reason to believe their 1911 is going to be horrible...do we?
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The closest you may come to the $500 mark might be the Springfield Mil-spec, but overall I suspect you need to spend more than a "Glock", for example, to achieve the same reliability...on average IMO.
Of course, many consumers, IMHO, expect a lot more out of 1911's in general than other "modern guns". Some are happy with the "crappy" sights on a Glock, but on their 1911, they must have the "Novak" style...because the mil-spec sight is "crappy" . Same goes for the trigger pulls, accuracy, fit and finish.
Also, I think many people way under estimate the sales of 1911's in total, because their are some many manufacturers. It wouldn't surprise me if you added all the 1911 sales and compared them to Glock CIVILIAN sales, they might be close. Add LEO, and Glock is, by far, the best seller. 1911's, in total would easily outsell Sigs, H&K's, etc. I believe.
I don't think a SA type gun can really impact any Glock type sales much since gun games seperate the guns and LEO's, Military will never go that way.
Of course, many consumers, IMHO, expect a lot more out of 1911's in general than other "modern guns". Some are happy with the "crappy" sights on a Glock, but on their 1911, they must have the "Novak" style...because the mil-spec sight is "crappy"
. Same goes for the trigger pulls, accuracy, fit and finish.Also, I think many people way under estimate the sales of 1911's in total, because their are some many manufacturers. It wouldn't surprise me if you added all the 1911 sales and compared them to Glock CIVILIAN sales, they might be close. Add LEO, and Glock is, by far, the best seller. 1911's, in total would easily outsell Sigs, H&K's, etc. I believe.
I don't think a SA type gun can really impact any Glock type sales much since gun games seperate the guns and LEO's, Military will never go that way.
Most here just parrot what they've heard or read in gun magazines. I've had an aluminum Commander since the middle 70's. When I bought it, everyone warned me that it would "wear out". 30 years and many thousand rounds, and it doesn't appear to be "worn out". Now if you want a steel gun for the weight in shooting, that makes sense.
Taurus did something smart. They hired an american with many years in the gun industry who loves good guns.
PCRCCW
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I wouldnt slam the metal framed Taurus guns......Id hold off until I see one to pass judgement. My bet is they are at least CD quality.......hopefully better.
Who knows....if they are made in Brazil.....they could be the same frames/slides that Springfield uses.
Shoot well.............
Who knows....if they are made in Brazil.....they could be the same frames/slides that Springfield uses.
Shoot well.............
BHPshooter
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Except for the barrel link, which was later improved and made available to consumers in 1935.
Wes
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Dontcha' know.... Ruger already has a 1911 out on the market. Its called the P345!
nico
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I don't have anything against alloy; the gun I shoot most often is a S&W 910. But, for recreational shooting, I'd rather have steel because, in the case of 1911s, you end up with a ~38-39oz gun instead of a 32oz gun. Maybe I'm splitting hairs over the difference, as I haven't fired an aluminum framed 1911, but the 910 that I usually shoot 28oz, 9mm) has more recoil than the steel framed 1911s I've shot (which were all around 38oz).
George Hill
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Still waiting for the Beretta 1911.
Krag
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JMB designed very good pistols. But those who believe that no real advances in handgun technology have been made since 1911 (or have proven possible) are the worst kind of head in the sand Luddites. Sheesh......... 
BTW, 90%+ of the R&D work on the Browning Hi-Power was in reality done by the Belgian engineer Dieudonne Saive. FN just attached "Browning" to the name for advertising purposes.
BTW, 90%+ of the R&D work on the Browning Hi-Power was in reality done by the Belgian engineer Dieudonne Saive. FN just attached "Browning" to the name for advertising purposes.
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