Looks like the painc is really setting in

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Its starting to calm down around here. Prices on guns are starting to come down to around normal. Maybe a little high still, but not ridiculously so.
 
I suspect those prices are more due to the rather unique and collectability (to some) of those receivers than than the current political issues, as those are very early cast DPMS receivers. The very low the serial numbers, raised embossed lettering, and the Becker MN location all point to them being very early cast DPMS receivers. If it was a early forged lower the serial number would have an F prefix and the lettering would be debossed into the receiver. They are certainly pre-2004 when they moved to St Cloud and stopped making cast lowers and likely early 90's given the serial numbers.
 
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mcb said:
I suspect those prices are more due to the rather unique and collectability (to some) of those receivers than than the current political issues, as those are very early cast DPMS receivers. The very low the serial numbers, raised lettering, and the Becker MN location all point to very early cast DPMS receiver. If it was a early forge lower the serial number would have an F prefix and the lettering would be debossed into the receiver. They are certainly pre-2004 when they moved to St Cloud and stopped making cast lowers and likely early 90's given the serial numbers.
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Seriously? Some people find "collectability" in AR receivers?? What in the world makes them better than the other gazillion of them out there??

Pre owned means "used" to me even if never assembled

At this rate a Bushmaster or S&W should be worth a fortune.:uhoh:
 
Rule3 said:
Seriously? Some people find "collectability" in AR receivers?? What in the world makes them better than the other gazillion of them out there??

Pre owned means "used" to me even if never assembled

At this rate a Bushmaster or S&W should be worth a fortune.:uhoh:
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The point is, is that these receivers could be pre-ban (pre-1994) receivers. Not that, that is going to mean anything going forward. To me, they are just like any other AR receiver; I don't buy into the "pre-ban" thinking. Politicians have been known to change the rules as they see fit, so basing judgements on previous situations is folly, history is being rewritten in this country at a fast pace.
 
Rule3 said:
Seriously? Some people find "collectability" in AR receivers?? What in the world makes them better than the other gazillion of them out there??

Pre owned means "used" to me even if never assembled

At this rate a Bushmaster or S&W should be worth a fortune.:uhoh:
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Same reason why folks find collectability in Pre-64 Winchester 94s; are they any better than Mirouku 94s? To each their own...
 
Rule3 said:
Seriously? Some people find "collectability" in AR receivers?? What in the world makes them better than the other gazillion of them out there??

Pre owned means "used" to me even if never assembled

At this rate a Bushmaster or S&W should be worth a fortune.:uhoh:
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Hence the "(to some)" I put in that post. I personally would not pay extra for them but they are unique in that that are early DPMS production and are cast receivers a manufacturing method very few other companies have tried. Nearly all AR-15 makers use forgings for their lowers with some of the higher-end and/or lower volume receivers made from billet.
 
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I stocked up on firearms and “shooting stuff” when things calmed after Sandy Hook; I did not stock up because I was a prophet and ultra savvy like others on this forum - I stocked up because the reality of shooting shortages hit home with me - so I simply purchased more when it was inexpensive and available - no magic, no cunning, no brilliance - just lucky timing.
Now I do not have to worry about this market and I can relax on that note. I would suspect that most that profess magical powers of future events was nothing more than lucky timing also. If they do have magical powers of knowing the future, I can think of much better places having much better returns than ammo and firearms.
 
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Seriously? Some people find "collectability" in AR receivers?? What in the world makes them better than the other gazillion of them out there??
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There's a collector clique for just about everything, and some of them are pretty nutty about weird stuff.

Me? Unless it's a transferable MG, a basic aluminum AR lower is not worth more than $50-$60, period. Most of the billet ones are 6061, wouldn't want them at all. About the only lower I'd pay a premium for is a CCH Turnbull steel one.
 
It's funny that nobody ever complains when they buy something for a crazy cheap price, but then think it's absurd when someone ask a high price for the same thing when they are hard to find any place.

When you have something that other people want, you can charge whatever you want for it as long as there are people willing to pay for it. If you don't like the price, then it's pretty simple - Don't Buy It!
 
Both auctions started at a penny. No one was "asking" anything for them. Some seem to think they are worth something though.
 
IMO the $300-400 for an AR days were unusually depressed due to a glut of supply and no demand. Lot of old names went out of business during that time. I think $500-1000 depending on quality is prob a normal sustainable baseline with historical average demand (if you removed politics). So I wouldn’t feel bad buying in that range even though they’ve been lower.

on interesting to me anecdote is I live between two large gun stores that are a few hours apart. Both have several hundred pistols in stock normally and are kinda high priced. For some reason I can’t fathom, one has shelves almost full while the other has been wiped out. Yesterday they had maybe 5 pistols. Completely different experience.
 
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Same reason why folks find collectability in Pre-64 Winchester 94s; are they any better than Mirouku 94s? To each their own...
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They are markedly better than post 64s by a long shot. Miroku, way overpriced.
 
28 bids to 855 clams for a stripped lower.... a DPMS stripped lower..... a CAST DPMS stripped lower.

Madness!

I wonder if the winners are ready to shell out for the ammo - IF they can find it?

I remember selling my last, high quality Bushmaster stripped lower at the Del Mar gun show the last weekend before the gawd-awful California assault-weapons-ban kicked in.

Got something like 485 for it and that was a damn fine lower with an actual draconian bill already passed and hours from being law.

Todd.
 
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28 bids to 855 clams for a stripped lower.... a DPMS stripped lower..... a CAST DPMS stripped lower.

Madness!

I wonder if the winners are ready to shell out for the ammo - IF they can find it?

I remember selling my last, high quality Bushmaster stripped lower at the Del Mar gun show the last weekend before the gawd-awful California assault-weapons-ban kicked in.

Got something like 485 for it and that was a damn fine lower with an actual draconian bill already passed and hours from being law.

Todd.
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Just FYI @ApacheCoTodd no difference, looks like people were valuing your lower (in1994) like they are valuing the current lowers (2020).

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The are other auctions for complete AR pattern rifles ending right now with pricing in the $800-1000 range that have a couple or zero bids. Something is apparently "special" about these two lowers.
 
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