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NRA Pitch Angers 2 L.A. Officials;
Councilmen object to membership appeals in Glock packages at Police Academy gun shop.

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Los Angeles Times
September 26, 2003 Friday Home Edition

When it comes to gun policies, the city of Los Angeles and the National Rifle Assn. could hardly be farther apart. Los Angeles passed one of the nation's first assault weapons bans and has pushed other measures opposing the proliferation of firearms, while the NRA tirelessly defends the right to bear arms.

So two City Council members were outraged to learn that Los Angeles police officers are receiving solicitations to join the NRA when they buy Glock pistols at the city Police Academy's gun shop. The membership pitch is sealed inside the packaging with the gun's warranty and safety information.


"I would like this stopped," said Councilman Jack Weiss.

Officials at Glock said they had meant no harm. The solicitations are included in every Glock package "kind of like an offer to join AAA when you buy your new Ford," said Kevin Connor, the gun maker's lawyer. But Connor said that, if city officials have concerns, Glock will be happy to listen.

A spokesman for the NRA, however, said city officials should "have better things to do than looking into this -- like preventing crime."

"These people must be reading the Communist Manifesto, not the Bill of Rights," said Richard Cabral, NRA field representative for Southern California. "Criminals and crime are the problem, not guns."

The Glocks, lightweight, .40-caliber guns popularized in rap music, became an option for LAPD officers on Aug. 26, when the Police Commission ruled that officers could buy them and use them in place of department-issued Beretta models.

Police Chief William J. Bratton pushed for the Glock's use, saying 70% of police departments nationwide use the weapon, as do the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Administration.

An LAPD officer who bought a Glock and found the NRA solicitation notified the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, according to Luis Tolley, the campaign's director of state legislation. Tolley notified Weiss.

"It makes it appear that this is something that is being sponsored or endorsed by the LAPD," and officers might think they're being encouraged to join the NRA, Tolley said.

This week, Weiss and Councilman Eric Garcetti submitted a motion asking the Police Department to explain how the solicitations had gotten into the packaging.

Assistant Police Chief Jim McDonnell said the LAPD had been unaware that its officers were receiving the solicitations until it had been alerted by the council members' objections. McDonnell said officials would "look at this issue," although he noted that the store, the Los Angeles Police Revolver & Athletic Club, is independent of the department.

The store is run by LAPD officers, and only law enforcement officers may shop there. The shop often heeds department advice. Earlier this year, when the City Council outlawed the sale of .50-caliber firearms to the public, the store stopped selling them at Bratton's request, even though police officers were allowed to buy them elsewhere.

If the police chief advised the club that the NRA solicitation "was not a good idea, we'd be receptive to telling Glock to stop the solicitation," said Jim Voge, an LAPD captain and president of the club.
 
Oh What a shame!

Not!

They are acting like 2 year olds.
Like it or Lump it morons!:)
 
An LAPD officer who bought a Glock and found the NRA solicitation notified the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, according to Luis Tolley, the campaign's director of state legislation. Tolley notified Weiss.
just one more reason to pray for california to fall into the ocean...
Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

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Earlier this year, when the City Council outlawed the sale of .50-caliber firearms to the public, the store stopped selling them at Bratton's request, even though police officers were allowed to buy them elsewhere.

Do I even need to comment on this?
 
"These people must be reading the Communist Manifesto, not the Bill of Rights," said Richard Cabral, NRA field representative for Southern California. "Criminals and crime are the problem, not guns."

He's assuming they're able to read. Is that a reasonable assumption?
 
The Glocks, lightweight, .40-caliber guns popularized in rap music
Oh yeah, I remember listening to rap back in the early 80s. The Glock would have never made it, if it hadn't been for rap music. :rolleyes: Nothing like an unbiased press to equate Glock and rap. Lauren Hill is the one to blame.
 
just one more reason to pray for california to fall into the ocean...
Cuz I'm praying for rain
And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

It's a
Bulls**t three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless f*****g hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any f*****g time. Any f*****g day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipsh**s.
 
An LAPD officer who bought a Glock and found the NRA solicitation notified the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, according to Luis Tolley, the campaign's director of state legislation.

And we have a winner: I'm proud to present the Weinie of the Week award to this LEO. :barf:
 
Good to see there's at least a couple other Tool fans here. :)

I assume they're also going to have to remove all billboards from LA, because the same officers may be confused into thinking the LAPD wants them to buy Calvin Klein, Wild Turkey, Marlboro and Kotex, right?

And Unisaw is right, the cop that ran and tattled to the brady bunch gets weenie of the century award.
 
A couple of my guns came with it. So if a police department buys a Dell, is who cares that it comes with an AOL CD?

What a bunch of crybabies.
 
This is nothing more than another attempt by a local authority to preempt and override the Commerce Clause by telling participants in interstate commerce what they may include in their products. Of course, the First Amendment means nothing more to these clowns than the Second Amendment, either.
 
I think he should have a Darwin of the week award. Does he think he will have a gun in the future if the NRA is disbanded? He won't have guns either. Just look at what happened in England. No Guns for the Police. I'll bet England wishes they had the NRA over there. Unless of course they are the only one's allowed to have guns. Besides the criminals:(

I just wish more gun owners would join. We have 80 million gun owners in the USA. Why don't they join? It would give the NRA so much money to fight the gun laws. I just don't understand why people who have guns won't pay a measley $35.00 a year to belong to an organization who has done so much for the Gun Industry.

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1 John 5:14,15
And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask anything according to his WILL, he heareth us. And if we know that he hear us whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.
 
An LAPD officer who bought a Glock and found the NRA solicitation notified the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, according to Luis Tolley, the campaign's director of state legislation. Tolley notified Weiss.
What a whiny little hypocrite. "I bought my gun, and with it was an offer for membership to an organization trying to protect civilian gun rights! Mere civilians! The unmitigated GALL!"

:barf:

In The Perfect World, LAPD could whine to Glock, and Glock would remedy the problem by no longer selling their firearms to the LAPD. This way their poor wittle eyes won't be hurt by seeing an NRA offer when they get their new gun. A gun which, I might add, is no longer okay to sell on the civilian market over there. :fire:
 
The Glocks, lightweight, .40-caliber guns popularized in rap music

Unfortunately, along with movies and TV, rap music is probably where today's teens get most of their knowlege of guns.:banghead:



McDonnell said officials would "look at this issue

Good grief, go solve some crimes, willya? Don't waste time "looking at this issue".
 
An LAPD officer who bought a Glock and found the NRA solicitation notified the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, according to Luis Tolley, the campaign's director of state legislation. Tolley notified Weiss.

This officer should be reassigned to one of the 'hoods in LA, and should be made to patrol London style. Billie club and a radio. Obviously by involving the Brady bozos, this officer is really saying, "I'm scared of guns, and I shouldn't have to carry one..." I for one would like the officer to have thier wish granted. Good luck.

I know the article wouldn't be balanced, and I don't want to start any sex-descrimination, but what sex is this officer?

Personally, I think, this coupled with the elitist view of some law enforcement officers, would make me think twice about selling my wares to LEO's, but my names not Gaston.
 
It sounds as if this guy was actually offended by the NRA solicitation. UNBELIEVABLE, EVEN FOR A CALIFORNIAN. An invitation to join the Klan, I might be offended. To join the Hell's Angels, I'd be more amused than offended. Come on San Andreas fault, do your thang! Do it! Thank God I live in the U.S.A.
 
Simple solution is for gun makers not to sell weapons to regimes hostile to the values of the United States..
 
cop snitches to "superiors" about NRA solicitation....

Wait 'till this little Puke has to figure out if there's one in the chamber when he/she has to pull the trigger to disassemble the Glock....Darwin may prevail! :evil:
 
Brady bunch may not be telling truth

An LAPD officer who bought a Glock and found the NRA solicitation notified the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, according to Luis Tolley, the campaign's director of state legislation. Tolley notified Weiss.

The Brady's lie about everything else,why not about this?
I know a police officer who is anti gun,but even he wouldn't stoop that low.
I think they are lying and found out through some other means.
 
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