ugaarguy
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Fellow High Roaders,
Some things I've indirectly observed of late have caused me to seriously question ballistic gellatin testing. In the recent "Falling Bullets" episode of the show Myth Busters they are trying to determine how high both a 9mm bullet and also a 30-06 bullet go in the air when fired strait up. Their first attempt was to use how deep said FMJ Bullets went into 10% ballistic gel (90% water) then compare the density of the gel to the density of air and extrapolate the result. Now the falling bullets thing isn't what I'm concerned about. What I'm concerned about is how that 30-06 FMJ round acted in the gel - it disintegrated within six inches. The Myth Busters reasoned that this happened because the gel is 90% water and they got similar results when shooting a variety of high velocity FMJ rounds into water (including 30-06 FMJ) when looking at the shooting into water myth. Now we know from evidence - wars - that FMJ rounds at high velocity tend to either go thru, or tumble within, when shot into a person. They don't disintegrate like in the water and, more notably, 10% ballistic gel tests. So we now have pretty good evidence that ballistic gel isn't an accurate gauge of how a bullet will perform on a person being shot in self defense/ an animal being shot when hunting. Then today I read this post; http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=2411677&postcount=20, by cookekdjr. Now we have another piece of evidence, presented by David, that bullet performance in a human is not the same as in ballistic gel. So, other than conducting a new version of the rumored Strausburg Goat Tests, what do we do? Do we shoot bullets into sluaghtered animal carcasses and compare the resultant wound channels? What does bullet performance in ballistic gel really tell us?
Some things I've indirectly observed of late have caused me to seriously question ballistic gellatin testing. In the recent "Falling Bullets" episode of the show Myth Busters they are trying to determine how high both a 9mm bullet and also a 30-06 bullet go in the air when fired strait up. Their first attempt was to use how deep said FMJ Bullets went into 10% ballistic gel (90% water) then compare the density of the gel to the density of air and extrapolate the result. Now the falling bullets thing isn't what I'm concerned about. What I'm concerned about is how that 30-06 FMJ round acted in the gel - it disintegrated within six inches. The Myth Busters reasoned that this happened because the gel is 90% water and they got similar results when shooting a variety of high velocity FMJ rounds into water (including 30-06 FMJ) when looking at the shooting into water myth. Now we know from evidence - wars - that FMJ rounds at high velocity tend to either go thru, or tumble within, when shot into a person. They don't disintegrate like in the water and, more notably, 10% ballistic gel tests. So we now have pretty good evidence that ballistic gel isn't an accurate gauge of how a bullet will perform on a person being shot in self defense/ an animal being shot when hunting. Then today I read this post; http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=2411677&postcount=20, by cookekdjr. Now we have another piece of evidence, presented by David, that bullet performance in a human is not the same as in ballistic gel. So, other than conducting a new version of the rumored Strausburg Goat Tests, what do we do? Do we shoot bullets into sluaghtered animal carcasses and compare the resultant wound channels? What does bullet performance in ballistic gel really tell us?