Lpvo optics.

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Looking for an lpvo in the 1-6x range that doesn't use a bdc reticle because I'm positive they are not calibrated to any bullet with a 6x45. What are my options?
 
Does that mean you're looking for one with a straight up mil or moa reticle or one with a simple cross hair?

Their are very few situations where a BDC reticle will perfectly line up. Most adapt the reticle to their rig. Anyway, two that come to mind are the Delta Stryker SFP and the Trijicon Credo FFP. The Delta is going to have a daylight bright dot.
 
Can you give us an idea on a budget?

The Vortex PST II 1-6 has a mil based version and a daylight bright reticle. It is SFP, so you would need to be on 6x to be 1:1.

While I'm not much a fan of BDC reticles, you can scale a BDC reticle to your 6x45 using a ballistics calculator.
 
I'm positive they are not calibrated to any bullet with a 6x45. What are my options?

Who cares if they are calibrated to any specific load. I have scopes with generic multiple aiming points on most of my rifles. I zero the crosshair at 100 yards. The dots or hash marks below the crosshair will usually be close at 200-300-400 yards etc. But never perfect.

I get to the range and shoot to determine exactly where the bullets are impacting at those ranges. I may be 2-4" above or below POA at 200-300-400 etc, but that is OK.

In the real world I'm almost never going to be shooting at something that is EXACTLY 200-300- 400 yards away. In the real world I'm probably going to see 180-325-370 yards. Even if the aiming points were perfectly calibrated I still have to compensate. But it's a lot easier to compensate for 2-4 INCHES than it is to compensate for 2-4 FEET.
 
Who cares if they are calibrated to any specific load. I have scopes with generic multiple aiming points on most of my rifles. I zero the crosshair at 100 yards. The dots or hash marks below the crosshair will usually be close at 200-300-400 yards etc. But never perfect.

I get to the range and shoot to determine exactly where the bullets are impacting at those ranges. I may be 2-4" above or below POA at 200-300-400 etc, but that is OK.

In the real world I'm almost never going to be shooting at something that is EXACTLY 200-300- 400 yards away. In the real world I'm probably going to see 180-325-370 yards. Even if the aiming points were perfectly calibrated I still have to compensate. But it's a lot easier to compensate for 2-4 INCHES than it is to compensate for 2-4 FEET.

To add, after you've gotten your hard dope, just tape a little range card with the correct distances for the hashes on your stock or inside your flip up scope cap.

X-100
1st hash-210
2nd hash- 330
3rd hash- 450

Etc, whatever you're actually hitting at.

Even if it's "calibrated" for your cartridge of choice, it's not going to be exact anyways unless you're really lucky.
 
Delta Stryker comes with a mil reticle and I frequently see it described as 'the best lpvo under 1k'. No experience.

Swampfox has nice mil reticles and generally very bright, wide fov optics with the tradeoff being a very tight eyebox ime
 
I have Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8's on my AR and FAL and have had no issues. Had to adjust to the eye box a bit but I like them.
 
To add, after you've gotten your hard dope, just tape a little range card with the correct distances for the hashes on your stock or inside your flip up scope cap.

X-100
1st hash-210
2nd hash- 330
3rd hash- 450

Etc, whatever you're actually hitting at.

Even if it's "calibrated" for your cartridge of choice, it's not going to be exact anyways unless you're really lucky.
Even if it is, the environmental conditions, will add some inaccuracy.

Same basic method I use: This is for a Leupold VX6HD 2-12 with illuminated BDC. Dots are supposed to be for 300-400-500.

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I just ordered a LPVO through aliexpress from the Vector optics store. This will be my first experience ordering direct from China. As a side note, Vector builds scopes for some of the major players so why not go right to the source. When it gets here I can post an update to my thoughts after i get some rounds down range.
 
I just ordered a LPVO through aliexpress from the Vector optics store. This will be my first experience ordering direct from China. As a side note, Vector builds scopes for some of the major players so why not go right to the source. When it gets here I can post an update to my thoughts after i get some rounds down range.
A few years ago, I spoke to the national sales manager of a major scope company. During the discussion, he said that the average Chinese scope costs $125 to manufacture, package, and import to the US.

Some of the Chinese scopes sold by US companies are marked up 3 or 4 times that.
 
It's funny you mention $125.00. I paid $129.00 including a rail mount. If it had Athlon or Vortex stamped on the side I'd be paying 3 times that.
 
Depends on quality/features, such a wide range of scope quality/price to buy out there
 
I posted this and never got alerts to respond, my apologies. I'd like to keep it in the 500 or less area. I don't mind just plain crosshairs and a moa reticle would be extra nice. An uncalibrated bdc is just anoying...
 
I posted this and never got alerts to respond, my apologies. I'd like to keep it in the 500 or less area. I don't mind just plain crosshairs and a moa reticle would be extra nice. An uncalibrated bdc is just anoying...
leupold 1.5-4 you can have them make you a custom dial. I think its included in the price of the Mark 3hd but don't quote me
 
leupold 1.5-4 you can have them make you a custom dial. I think its included in the price of the Mark 3hd but don't quote me

The custom CDS dial is free, for those scopes it comes equipped on.

The MK3HD's the only LPVO model with the CDS is the 1.5-4x20 illuminated Fire Dot with TMR reticle for around $650 or so. The other LPVOs in the MK3HD line have BDCs and capped turrets.

In the VX3HDs there's 2 models 1.5-5 with 1" tube and a 1.5-5X 30mm tube and illuminated FireDot. Both of these have CDS dials.

I have the VX3HD 1.5-5X "Twilight Hunter" with FireDot and CDS dial, but I change loads or conditions so often that I just leave mine in MOA and use a dope chart.
 
Even if it is, the environmental conditions, will add some inaccuracy.

Same basic method I use: This is for a Leupold VX6HD 2-12 with illuminated BDC. Dots are supposed to be for 300-400-500.

BiQdJtql.jpg

I'd really like to replace the 4-12x Leupold on my knock around AR, with a 2-10 or something similar, and that VX6HD would probably be my #1 choice.

But it is a spare parts, mismatch build, so I'm thinking more along the lines of a Athlon Helos 2-12x is more fitting.

Not as many options in that middle power range unfortunately.
 
The LPVO showed up yesterday and only took 5 days from China to PA. This is what I ordered.

It has a huge eye box and it is true 1x. There is no fish eye on 1 power like some of the more expensive optics. Controls are very stiff but that's sort of a good thing. It has locking turrets in 1/5 mil increments and is second focal plane. So how is the glass you ask? Pretty darn good once you get the diopter setup correctly. I got it mounted up on the AR, bore sighted and will do some indoor 50 foot sight in and testing.

I previously had a Weaver super slam 2-10 with multi-x reticle which is a great scope but not the right tool for this rig. I tried a Sig Romeo 4 next and that was a flop do to my astigmatism. I was then going to try a prism and decided to stick with what I know works for me.
 
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