Furncliff
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Getting stuff together to reload M1 Carbine. I'll probably buy a few brands of loaded ammo to test the rifle and gather brass. Are there any brands better than the others or is there anything to avoid?
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M1 Carbine Brass -brands to avoid?
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Lafitte
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If you happen to get some GI ammo it will most likely have crimped primers. They require an extra step in reloading. Before priming the crimp has to be removed.
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FROGO207
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Someone gave me a box of Wolf 30 Carbine ammo. The casings were lacquered steel with Berdan primers. Not worth reloading IMHO.
Ironicaintit
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I got a batch of once fired a while back, and found an amerc in it. It actually looked serviceable, but i tossed it out anyways.
Avoid those!
I havent found any one brand yet that seems to be junk, otherwise.
Avoid those!
I havent found any one brand yet that seems to be junk, otherwise.
1KPerDay
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I've used Aguila, S&B and Remington with no issues yet. Prvi also I think.
ReloaderFred
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I just processed a thousand rounds of M-1 Carbine brass today. I've got it headstamped back to 1942 up through the present. I found about two dozen Amerc in the mix, but those went into the recycling bucket. Everything else is getting loaded.
The only military brass I've run across that's crimped has been WRA headstamped. All the WRA brass from WW II has a ring crimp, and all of it from the Korean War and beyond has been four stamped stabs. All other GI brass from Lake City, Remington Arms and some others has been uncrimped. That's been my experience since I first started loading the M-1 Carbine in the mid 1960's.
Hope this helps.
Fred
The only military brass I've run across that's crimped has been WRA headstamped. All the WRA brass from WW II has a ring crimp, and all of it from the Korean War and beyond has been four stamped stabs. All other GI brass from Lake City, Remington Arms and some others has been uncrimped. That's been my experience since I first started loading the M-1 Carbine in the mid 1960's.
Hope this helps.
Fred
Furncliff
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Thanks for the replies, good info for me to use.
Kevin Rohrer
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Starline just started making .30 carbine brass. Their stuff is excellent but hard and needs to be annealed before use.
Ironicaintit
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Ive been prepping my cases, and I went through my notes on 30 carbine;
Id forgotten, but apparantly I had a bunch of loose primer pockets with CBC brass (parent Co. Of Magtech).
Just throwin that out there. Another somethin to be mindful of.
I only have a handful of them in this batch, so we shall see!
Id forgotten, but apparantly I had a bunch of loose primer pockets with CBC brass (parent Co. Of Magtech).
Just throwin that out there. Another somethin to be mindful of.
I only have a handful of them in this batch, so we shall see!
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I have read that NO .30 carbine brass was crimped.
ReloaderFred
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Some .30 Carbine brass was crimped in WW II and Korea, and even after the Korean war. Both WRA and WCC brass was crimped with either a ring crimp or 4 stab marks. The ring crimp was used during the WW II years, and the stab crimps were used during the Korean War era.
You may be confusing it with the fact that the .30 Carbine was never loaded with corrosive primers by any of the U.S. companies, which is true.
I just finished loading a batch of .30 Carbine and it included some MagTech (CBC) brass, and the primer pockets were as snug as the rest of the brands, both military and civilian. The S&B brass was also good to go, but the Norma brass was noticeably thicker when sizing.
Hope this helps.
Fred
You may be confusing it with the fact that the .30 Carbine was never loaded with corrosive primers by any of the U.S. companies, which is true.
I just finished loading a batch of .30 Carbine and it included some MagTech (CBC) brass, and the primer pockets were as snug as the rest of the brands, both military and civilian. The S&B brass was also good to go, but the Norma brass was noticeably thicker when sizing.
Hope this helps.
Fred
30 M1 Brass to avoid
I've reloaded government brass with all sorts of headstamps along with all the domestic commercial brands and had no trouble with any of them.
Several years ago, I bought 500 rounds of Norma brass. It corroded badly in storage and I had to discard 70 cases.
If you're buying old brass, watch out for the Chinese knock-offs bearing an LC 52 headstamp since they're berdan primed.
I've reloaded government brass with all sorts of headstamps along with all the domestic commercial brands and had no trouble with any of them.
Several years ago, I bought 500 rounds of Norma brass. It corroded badly in storage and I had to discard 70 cases.
If you're buying old brass, watch out for the Chinese knock-offs bearing an LC 52 headstamp since they're berdan primed.
Starline brass
Hey Kevin, I had not heard that about Starline's 30 M1 brass before. Do you know if it's hardened because of work hardening or because of trace elements in the brass? Also, how do you anneal it? I've annealed the necks on 223 cases with a propane torch before, but have no idea how far down I should go on the 30 M1 Carbine. Thanks.
Hey Kevin, I had not heard that about Starline's 30 M1 brass before. Do you know if it's hardened because of work hardening or because of trace elements in the brass? Also, how do you anneal it? I've annealed the necks on 223 cases with a propane torch before, but have no idea how far down I should go on the 30 M1 Carbine. Thanks.
Carl N. Brown
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I think posters are confused ob what was crimped.
Crimped primers yes, some makes, not all.
Crimped bullets, never. Well, some of my reloads with 85 gr bullets with chanelures, but nothing commercial or military in my experience shooting a Marlin 62 in the 70s and an M1 carbine the past 30 years.
Crimped primers yes, some makes, not all.
Crimped bullets, never. Well, some of my reloads with 85 gr bullets with chanelures, but nothing commercial or military in my experience shooting a Marlin 62 in the 70s and an M1 carbine the past 30 years.
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