REGGIE RECON
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My Inland 1943 M1 Carbine is not seating the round into the chamber all the way. Could it be a bad recoil spring?
M1 Carbine problems
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Will the round go in without a mag in place?
Will the round go in with a little push on the handle?
Is the ammo new or reloads?
I'd approach the problem this way. (no real order)
Check chamber.
Check ammo.
Check mag.
Check for binding.
Check for spring tension.
On the CMP website there is some info on the M1 Carbine. They might have something on what the common cause is.
Will the round go in with a little push on the handle?
Is the ammo new or reloads?
I'd approach the problem this way. (no real order)
Check chamber.
Check ammo.
Check mag.
Check for binding.
Check for spring tension.
On the CMP website there is some info on the M1 Carbine. They might have something on what the common cause is.
loadedround
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Assuming that you have a clean chamber and bolt assembly, using factory ammo, the first thing I would check and replace would be your recoil spring. It could be the original GI one and god knows how old it is. Carbine recoil springs are cheap and Brownells and MidwayUSA carry them.
REGGIE RECON
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M1 Carbine
The round will chamber with a little help. I got new ammo and was able to shoot maybe 2 rounds, then the next wouldn't seat all the way.
The round will chamber with a little help. I got new ammo and was able to shoot maybe 2 rounds, then the next wouldn't seat all the way.
REGGIE RECON
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How can I tell if the spring is good?
Over here
http://www.thecmp.org/m1carbine.htm
they some info like this and other resources
http://www.thecmp.org/pdfs/CMP_Carbine_Notes_2007.pdf
Not sure how to check on the spring. I would see if it feels weak.
The only problem I ever had on and M1 carbine was a gas piston was in need of cleaning. It had cosmoline or something preventing it from traveling.
What ammo?
I am no expert on the M1 Carbine.
I hope others can give more advice.
http://www.thecmp.org/m1carbine.htm
they some info like this and other resources
http://www.thecmp.org/pdfs/CMP_Carbine_Notes_2007.pdf
Not sure how to check on the spring. I would see if it feels weak.
The only problem I ever had on and M1 carbine was a gas piston was in need of cleaning. It had cosmoline or something preventing it from traveling.
What ammo?
I am no expert on the M1 Carbine.
I hope others can give more advice.
REGGIE RECON
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M1 Carbine
The ammo is " magtech" What ammo do you suggest. I plan on changing out the spring.It's inexpensive enough. Hopfully it will solve the problem.
The ammo is " magtech" What ammo do you suggest. I plan on changing out the spring.It's inexpensive enough. Hopfully it will solve the problem.
When we were kids my brother shot my dad's a lot. No idea on what ammo. Probably milsurp. The brass is most likely still where it landed.
I shot some Aquila and was not overly impressed. To be fair I shot @ 200 yds and that was near the upper limit of reality for it. I shot less than 100rnds. I am going to handload for several reasons. Price being one.
What is your opinion of the Magtech or other brands? I have seen some Remington & others at Walmart & Acadamy. Never even looked when I was at Cabela's.
I shot some Aquila and was not overly impressed. To be fair I shot @ 200 yds and that was near the upper limit of reality for it. I shot less than 100rnds. I am going to handload for several reasons. Price being one.
What is your opinion of the Magtech or other brands? I have seen some Remington & others at Walmart & Acadamy. Never even looked when I was at Cabela's.
dogrunner
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You might also want to check out the extractor as its got to snap over the cartridge rim to complete the chambering cycle.......too light a recoil spring could contribute to that not happening, but it's also possible that you have some obstruction interfering with that extractor.
If there's no chamber obstruction (unlikely due the fact you've fired it) then the problem is either a defective mag (too much drag on the ctg while feeding), too weak a recoil spring, defective extractor............or just possibly defective ammo.
If there's no chamber obstruction (unlikely due the fact you've fired it) then the problem is either a defective mag (too much drag on the ctg while feeding), too weak a recoil spring, defective extractor............or just possibly defective ammo.
Uncle Mike
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Your recoil spring is good...your choice of ammo for the M1 Carbine is bad! They were designed to cycle ball(fmj) ammo only...will other types of ammo work in it, sure, but not ALL ammo will.
Over all cartridge length(COL) is critical with this type rifle.
Stick to the standard ball ammo and you'll be good.
Over all cartridge length(COL) is critical with this type rifle.
Stick to the standard ball ammo and you'll be good.
Is this a new to you rifle? Has it ever worked properly for you with any ammo?
Carbines can be a bit finicky, but usually stuff like "bad springs" are non-starters. I've yet to see a "bad" spring that wasn't a broken spring
Are you sure it's a chambering problem? Is the partially chambered round difficult to extract?
Have you checked the headspace?
Carbines can be a bit finicky, but usually stuff like "bad springs" are non-starters. I've yet to see a "bad" spring that wasn't a broken spring
Are you sure it's a chambering problem? Is the partially chambered round difficult to extract?
Have you checked the headspace?
Carl N. Brown
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Concerning the user who had disappointing results with Aguila at 200 yards: I shoot Aguila at 100 yards with the 150 yd sight setting. It is a moderate load, dirty powder, but reasonably accurate and sometimes is the only .30 carbine ammo either available or priced for plinking.
Have had no experience with MagTech .30 carbine, but would recommend testing function with FMJ hardball (Winchester, Federal, Remington, Lake City) before doing anything to the gun.
Have had no experience with MagTech .30 carbine, but would recommend testing function with FMJ hardball (Winchester, Federal, Remington, Lake City) before doing anything to the gun.
Have shot my Inland for forty years now and learned two things at least pertaining to my carbine.
It does not like to be dirty, especially a dirty chamber.
Replacing bolt with full round M2 bolt seem to give chambering and extracting more authority.
I did however break a M2 bolt at the extractor.
It does not like to be dirty, especially a dirty chamber.
Replacing bolt with full round M2 bolt seem to give chambering and extracting more authority.
I did however break a M2 bolt at the extractor.
Carl N. Brown
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Breaking where the right lug is cut out for the extractor occurs with both M1 (flat top) and M2 (round) bolts. The round bolt, whle it is preferred for the M2 carbine, was actually introduced as a standard replacement part for the M1 carbine before the M2 was introduced. I still call the flat top the M1 bolt and the round top the M2 bolt and I occasionally get corrected by historical collectors.
Suggest check for clean chamber, extracter function, headspace and replace spring.
FWIW, I have a CMP Inland and checked headspace just to be sure. Good thing I did. No-go gage would chamber. So - excessive headspace. I remedied the problem.
My point - check the logical culprits - and don't overlook headspace.
FWIW, I have a CMP Inland and checked headspace just to be sure. Good thing I did. No-go gage would chamber. So - excessive headspace. I remedied the problem.
My point - check the logical culprits - and don't overlook headspace.
REGGIE RECON
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M1 Carbine
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Jon Coppenbarger
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do not try to remove the piston as it takes a special wrench to do it without damaging it.
I will check a piston by just puttng my finger over the barrel to seal it and plowing compressed air out of my compressor threw the chamber. it should pop it right out, have seen a few bad ones but as most folks have said most of the time its just cleaning and the chamber
I will check a piston by just puttng my finger over the barrel to seal it and plowing compressed air out of my compressor threw the chamber. it should pop it right out, have seen a few bad ones but as most folks have said most of the time its just cleaning and the chamber
clem
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Are you lubing the weapon with grease instead of just oil?
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Go back to the Remington ammo, or Winchester ammo. You can find Lake City surplus ammo fairly regularly if you keep an eye out on gun boards with a "for sale" section.
I'm guessing by your calling it a "new carbine" it's a commercial one, sometimes they just don't run right without a lot of tweeking, sometimes they still don't run right. That's why most folks who have experience with carbines will tell you to get a USGI over a commercial copy.
And some USGI carbines can be difficult to get running right, but if you clean them properly and maintain them properly, you usually experience no problems if you're using decent ammo.
When they don't run right, they can be a PITA, but when they do run right, shooting is a true joy.
I'm guessing by your calling it a "new carbine" it's a commercial one, sometimes they just don't run right without a lot of tweeking, sometimes they still don't run right. That's why most folks who have experience with carbines will tell you to get a USGI over a commercial copy.
And some USGI carbines can be difficult to get running right, but if you clean them properly and maintain them properly, you usually experience no problems if you're using decent ammo.
When they don't run right, they can be a PITA, but when they do run right, shooting is a true joy.
ulflyer
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Rarely are the slide springs too worn to do their job. The spring should measure 10 to 10 1/4 inch. Any less and it should be replaced. If you need a spring, email me.
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Gents,
Even though this is an older thread & I'm not the OP I do find the added comments helpful. I did get a set of dies for .30 carbine. I have not loaded for the carbine yet due to working on more pressing projects.
There is just something about the little carbine that makes it a must shoot one at least once in you life rifle.
Thanks and keep adding to the post.
WNTFW
Even though this is an older thread & I'm not the OP I do find the added comments helpful. I did get a set of dies for .30 carbine. I have not loaded for the carbine yet due to working on more pressing projects.
There is just something about the little carbine that makes it a must shoot one at least once in you life rifle.
Thanks and keep adding to the post.
WNTFW
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