Man Arrested for Stolen Magazines

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The guy probably told them that he stole them from his unit. People do STUPID things when talking to cops.
 
Driving Drunk is not the only problem here. It's being accused of a crime you didn't commit - that's a SECOND additional problem here.

the rest are tack on charges.
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So just any and every "tack on" charge is ok, so long as the first charge is legit? So if you're given a speeding ticket, you should also be charged with reckless driving and robbery for good measure?
 
VI'd like to know at what point the United States became Eastern Germany and the "Law Enforcement" was given the ability to setup random checkpoints where they can search your vehicle without due cause. I thought there was some clause somewhere in some document of law stating protection from "Unreasonable Search and Seizure." Im pretty sure that random checkpoints for all citizens falls under this category.
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Here in the Peoples Republic of Illinois those are called Roadside Safety Checks. Every holiday weekend and around any holiday they will randomly set up road blocks at Interstate Exit ramps and four way intersections in smaller towns. They will then "Randomly" pull over cars as they come through. Typically you get harassed about where you are going, where you have been, what you are doing, and who you are doing it with. When they become satisfied with this they ask you if you have any guns, drugs, alcohol, or naked midgets in the car. If they think you have had a drink, or any fun at all, they will ask to search your vehicle. If you refuse they have a stack of Fill-in-the-blank warrants sitting there, signed by a judge just for the occasion. What bill of rights?
 
"Fill-in-the-blank warrants sitting there, signed by a judge just for the occasion" I think a good defense lawyer should be able to get these thrown out. Never heard of a generic warrant. I should think a competent judge would know better.
 
Unless he told them he stole them form the Army, Trooper Christopher Richardson is wrong and is lucky that the guy was drunk!
Otherwise he would have to answer a claim for false arrest.

There are ten thousands if not hundred thousands of magazines out there stamped "LE/Military only".
Everything made between 1994 and 2004 was stamped this way and they are all legal for civilians to own.
 
So if you're given a speeding ticket, you should also be charged with reckless driving and robbery for good measure?

if you were reckless or robbing yea


If you refuse they have a stack of Fill-in-the-blank warrants sitting there, signed by a judge just for the occasion.


yea? source?
 
States require a license to drive a vehicle on the highway and sets safety standards for that vehicle. So since you are obviously driving when you come to a roadblock/license/safety check these are legitimate stops. Vehicle SEARCHES on the other hand require (1)probable cause,(2) warrant signed by a judge,(not a fill in the blank warrant) or drivers permission. ANY other search is a violation of the 4th Amendment regardless of what state you are in.
 
Wow, I have dozens marked "for law enforcement only." and according to the state are legal.
I did something at a gun show today that bothered me. A LEO told a vendor that the switch blade knives he was selling were illegal in Florida. I suggested that he, the LEO, review Florida Statute 790.225 and his reply was "son you read it, I know that it is illegal". With that I knew that it was a waste of time to talk to him. Hey, Son, I am 72 years old.
 
if you were reckless or robbing yea
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And that's precisely the point; he wasn't; Mr. Bill2e implies that if one charge is legit, any "tack on" charges are too, even if completely innocent of them. See the distinction? I'll spell it out: In one case, the person DID commit a 2nd/3rd crime (your hypothetical which no one even raised), and in this second case, the person did NOT commit a 2nd/3rd crime.
 
And that's precisely the point; he wasn't; Mr. Bill2e implies that if one charge is legit, any "tack on" charges are too, even if completely innocent of them. See the distinction? I'll spell it out: In one case, the person DID commit a 2nd/3rd crime (your hypothetical which no one even raised), and in this second case, the person did NOT commit a 2nd/3rd crime.

once they pop ya anything else they find while booking/processing you is fair game. solution? don't drive drunk
 
Any number of magazines produced during the AWB of 1994 were marked for Government/LEO use. When the ban expired in 2004, they were legally sold on the open market. Some of the current Ruger 20 round Mini-14 mags that are for sale are so marked. With the expiration of the Ban, in 2004, the markings became an interesting historical foot note.

It appears that the State Police are a few years behind the times, and took the stampings to be somehow still in effect. I wonder what other laws they're five years behind on?
 
once they pop ya anything else they find while booking/processing you is fair game. solution? don't drive drunk
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Don't try to reason with Tad. He hates cops a tad too much.
 
I think everyone is missing the point that this guy was a National Guardsman who had apparently had access to these magazines from his employement. I think the dotted lines are missing in the story as to how they identified the magazines as ones stolen from the Guard.
 
If he was driving drunk and in posession of stolen property then he deserves whatever punishment he gets. However there should be a presumption of innocence in both cases before anyone does any judging of the officers or the subject. Interestingly stupid media story though.
 
I remember seeing foot lockers full of M-16 30 round magazines in the surplus stores on B-street here in the springs. I don't recall ever seeing a magazine stamped " LE/Military use during my career" but I Got out in '88.
 
And that's precisely the point; he wasn't; Mr. Bill2e implies that if one charge is legit, any "tack on" charges are too, even if completely innocent of them. See the distinction? I'll spell it out: In one case, the person DID commit a 2nd/3rd crime (your hypothetical which no one even raised), and in this second case, the person did NOT commit a 2nd/3rd crime.
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once they pop ya anything else they find while booking/processing you is fair game. solution? don't drive drunk
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That's hilarious. What you just posted PROVES that you didn't READ what you just posted, as the second part flies directly in the face of the first part!

"anything else they find" - they didn't FIND ANYTHING AT ALL. ZILCH. ZIP. NADA. NOTHING. Nothing beyond a DUI. Don't you get the difference between a crime and not a crime? That's the fundamental distinction you learn day ONE on the job. But I guess you didn't. I was only kidding when I said let me spell it out for you - but now I think you really may not understand the difference between a crime and not a crime, based on your completely nonsensical posts.

Don't try to reason with Tad. He hates cops a tad too much.
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That would be YOU Maelstrom, that completely lacks any reasoning skills, if you think that what CD said makes any sense at all. Everyone understands what an add on charge is; it's just that most people think you should actually have done something before being charged with it; whereas CD and others apparently think you should just make stuff up and charge it. And I like cops; have several friends; just hate illogic and clear rights violations.
 
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seems that the cop claims the mags were stolen from the army and they were turned over to them so the army can deal with him. time will tell if they were stolen. but then again perhaps mr winslow has info i haven't seen. then again maybe not
 
Troopers arrested the man for DUI and Possession of Stolen Property. Trooper Richardson said the man, who's a member of the Kansas National Guard, stole eight magazines for the army M16
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Let's see them prove he stole them since I've picked up plenty at gunshows that were well used and marked "LE/Military Only".
 
Sadly, 'public safety' checkpoints (e.g. sobriety checkpoints) have been ruled as legal and Constitutional for many years now.
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Just because the courts have made a bad ruling doesn't make it a just ruling.
 
Let's see them prove he stole them since I've picked up plenty at gunshows that were well used and marked "LE/Military Only".
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Maybe the unit that is missing the mags has an identifier on them. My unit has barcodes affixed to the bottom of the mags to issue them out of a computer system. Firearms are issued the same way.
 
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