Man fires more than 20 rounds at police with AK-47; killed in standoff

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I think they mean "assault weapon," not "assault rifle." At any rate, this is exactly what the anti-freedom crowd has been waiting for.


http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/1019standoffweb.html


Dayton Daily News

Oxford, Ohio man fires more than 20 rounds at police with AK-47; killed in standoff


By Ken-Yon Hardy

OXFORD, OHIO | Law officers shot and killed a man Monday after he fired more than 20 rounds from an assault rifle and handgun during a 2½-hour standoff and threatened officers, the Butler County Sheriff's Office said.

Shane Griffin, 35, of 5201 College Corner Pike was shot three times after he walked out onto his porch, raised an AK-47 assault rifle and a handgun, and said that if the officers didn't kill him, he was going to kill them, sheriff's Chief Deputy Richard K. Jones said.

Oxford police officers were called to the mobile home park at 3:30 p.m. to investigate a harassment complaint made by Griffin's ex-girlfriend, Jones said. After speaking with the woman, the officers phoned Griffin, who was in a nearby mobile home, according to Oxford police officials.

An officer encouraged Griffin to meet him at the Oxford police station to discuss the complaint. Griffin refused and hung up, police said.

When the officer went to Griffin's home, Griffin refused to leave and would not reveal the right side of his body to the officer. Griffin then ordered the officer off the property and said he would harm anyone who tried to return, police said.

As additional police officers arrived from the sheriff's office, Oxford, Oxford Twp. and Miami University, Griffin opened fire.

"He was very aggressive, screaming at officers," Jones said. "When he exited, he began firing at officers. We were told people were hiding in their bathtubs."

Officers evacuated the surrounding mobile homes as Griffin continued to fire occasionally during the standoff.

Jones said friends and family also tried to speak with Griffin by phone and by bullhorn. Several times during the standoff, Griffin left his home and walked outside — always carrying a weapon, Jones said.

About 6:30 p.m., he stood in the doorway and pointed the AK-47 at an Oxford police officer. A member of OPD's Special Response Team fired two shots and a member of the sheriff's office SWAT team fired once. All three shots hit Griffin, fatally wounding him.

"The suspect came to the door and made comments of killing police officers or killing him," Jones said. "When you point a weapon at police officers, they are trained to respond with fire."

Griffin was pronounced dead at the scene.

"It was a very tragic situation," Jones said. "We're happy no innocent people were killed or injured."
 
And I'm sure it will be made out to seem as if he was able to get that AK-47 into the trailer park after the ban expired.

In any case, the lobbying groups aren't going to profit from this as much as they'd like to. Nobody was killed besides the perpetrator, so the effect is much less significant.
 
I'm entirely confident many news stories will start out this way:

Less than two months after the expiration of the federal assault weapons ban, an Ohio man fired more than 20 rounds at police with an AK-47...
 
The real question is did he fire the AKS at all.

Note the neat journalistic trick of combining the weapons: "more than 20 rounds from an assault rifle and handgun." 20 handgun - 0 rifle, 0-20, 10-10, 1-19, 19-1.

And about 1% of crime has always involved rifles. This incident is within that statistical expectation.

Besides, he was a suicidal nut without the guts to kill himself. Note that he didn't hit anyone. Was he even trying to?

This reporter doesn't tell us the crucial facts.
 
Ditto F4GIB

More than 20 rounds fired and nobody hurt? From a gun firing 7.62x39? From what I assume is close range? Raised both the AK and a handgun?

Suicide by Cop. He wasn't looking to take anybody out, most likely.

Also, firing 20 rounds in a 2 1/2 hour period could be easily done with a black powder single shot. Using two shots a minute, it would have taken 10 minutes. Less if he met the minuteman standard of 3 shots a minute.

He shot enough to get the cop's attention, then stepped outside. Suicide by cop.

And it's not an ideal case for the anti-gun crowd: nobody else was hurt, especially children.
 
First of all, the Dayton Daily News isn't much of a reliable source.

They are more of a liberal gossip rag.

Notice the only place in the article that is says that he fired at officers was in the title?

This mentally unstable individual didn't likely fire any rounds at officers. He likely punctuated his rants with gunfire, which is definately dangerous.

However, when he actually pointed his weapon at officers, they acted appropriately and defended themselves.

My sympathies the the family of the deseased.

My sympathies also to the officers who were forced to take his life and their families that will have to deal with that along with the officers.

My sympathies also to the deseased's neighbors who had to evacuate their homes in fear for their lives.

However, it wouldn't have made any difference if it were a hunting riffle or even a black powder rifle instead of an AK.

I shoot IPSC at a range in Oxford, maybe I'll hear more about this from some local people at the next match.
 
This guy was an felon, so he legally can't even own any guns. This was all over the news last night and they did not mention that fact.
 
"When he exited, he began firing at officers. We were told people were hiding in their bathtubs."
:confused:

What was the handgun? I find it funny how articles will mention an AK-47 and a handgun, ar a TEC-9 and a shotgun or whatever. Trying to play the public's fears.
 
This really hasn't made much news. Right now, Google only shows 11 related stories.
 
heh didn't read the rest of the thread... just so you know - but suicide by cop sounds about right.

We went shooting this weekend (last) and i did something i don't do much - started firing out of my mini-14's 30 rounder till it jams (which it enevitably does =(( ) i managed about 20 rounds.... in a LOT LOT less than 2 1/2 hours... and i can tell you if i was aiming at people....

well

it wouldnt' have been pretty....

the target tacked to the tree in 6 places would sympathize w/ that... it was missing four tacks before the gun jammed.... after i popped the two clays we had set up else where for a bit harder shooting....

(that five rounder works every time.. bleh)

at any rate... point being he obviously was either COMPLETELY inept... or like was said... suicide by cop...

J/Tharg!
 
...people were hiding in their bathtubs.
I think that's the image that the Dayton Daily News wants to disseminate. Swing state.

Riley,
This really hasn't made much news. Right now, Google only shows 11 related stories.
I'm guessing that'll change. SnakeEater, thanks for the info.

Blue suicide.
 
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