Man why don’t we make videos like this anymore?
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We all know the reasons why they are not made anymore and why they don't show or teach this stuff in schools anymore. But I don't want to get booted from here. But I agree, this stuff is very helpful and I wish they did teach this stuff plus marksmanship in schools still like they did when my parents were in school in the 60s.
hoardingthemanual
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I agree. The youth are being taught that anything gun related is bad. They were born in soft times and have turned against Americans and towards Socialsim. Damn the Democrats. Corrupting the youth used to be a crime.
Rock185
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Films like that would never be allowed in a public school today. Perhaps he is retired, but a military officer appearing in such a film today would see his career stalemate, or worse...
captain awesome
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I Love the video. I'm going to make all my kids watch it.
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Folks like to say this online, but frankly, ACTUAL current culture has seen more adoption of gun safety programs such as the NRA Eddie Eagle Gun Safety program in schools than ever before. There are schools shooting air rifles in gym class in the Dakotas, and there are school affiliated Trap teams all over the country.
The video is boring, and it was military propaganda even when it was made. Kids tune out to boring stuff, and EVERYONE has learned to be cynical of biased propaganda… Kids learn a hell of a lot more about Kentucky Long Rifles from Red Dead Redemption and about M14’s from Call of Duty than they would retain from a video like this. Equally, this kind of education is absolutely inundative on YouTube - there is an absolutely MASSIVE book of knowledge being shared for free online, 24/7, with better production value and quality, in most cases.
Want kids to learn about firearms? Volunteer. Get linked up with your local 4H shooting sports group, get linked up with local Scout troops, and put in the hours - the majority of which being spent on MARKETING to ensure attendance, and on fundraising to reduce cost of entry hurdles for kids to participate. Start hosting NRL22 or PRS Rimfire matches, or Appleseed events, and let kids shoot for free. Connect with your church youth group and offer to instruct gun safety and marksmanship events. Start a Facebook page and help organize local events to connect gun owners together and facilitate participation in actually shooting (get guns out of the back of the closet), then use that as the anchor pin to further GROW the gun owning community. Don’t know how to instruct or operate matches or classes? Find local instructors and organizations and ask how you can volunteer to help facilitate growth. Do SOMETHING.
Over a hundred million gun owners in the US, and too many are standing on their own islands, talking a lot about how they think things should be done to make more people like shooting (then out of the other side of their mouth criticizing other shooters and gun owners, and criticizing younger generations for whatever thing they can think up), but so very, very few of those folks are actually participating in a community of marksmen, or doing any thing at all to promote gun safety and marksmanship to their non-shooting community, or to the next generation…
I mean yeah I get it’s propaganda, but propaganda has its place and as for production quality, it depends on what you are looking for but very little of what I see on YouTube is of that level of quality.
Also while it may technically be a fallacy the fact that the video can speak from a position of authority has its on value. Being an official government source and all.
Also while it may technically be a fallacy the fact that the video can speak from a position of authority has its on value. Being an official government source and all.
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If I read the history correctly, the above video was produced at a Paramount Studio in Astoria, NY, that had been bought out by the Army after the start of WWII. Very few YouTubers have comparable governmental financial backing along with professional photographers, script writers, graphic designers, and editors to produce videos, which may be why you don't see the quality of YT vids as being comparable.
I get that. My comment was in response to the post above mine where the person said
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Where have you been the last 4 years? You might have missed the opportunity we all had to directly observe the public perception of the Federal Government as “speaking from a position of authority.”
The last 3 generations do not share this perception.
And c’mon, calibrate a little here with reality… the Army doesn’t have any “position of authority” over 93% of Americans, and only does tenuously over 6.96% of those it once did.
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we don’t see that anymore because the socioeconomic class of this country that provides the leadership of this country have sold us out.
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More likely because the paradigm under which it was made has changed dramatically, and the US Government no longer needs military supplementation by US citizens as it did even as recently as 100yrs ago.
The paradigm of a weak United States Military which saw the advent of the Civilian Marksmanship Program by Theodore Roosevelt and the foundation of the NRA a few decades earlier to supplement Federal Military weakness with ad-hoc civilian volunteerism has been completely displaced. It was realized after the American Civil War that the traits of the American population which had won the American Revolutionary War had waned in the interstitial century, so the average American Citizen was no longer a capable "rifleman," and considering that the United States of the late 1800's and early 1900's was not yet established as a global super-power, especially not established as a formidable global MILITARY power. Those folks which founded these organizations recognized the pertinence of establishing - plainly - civilian marksmanship programs such the average citizen would again be as much a threat as the Militiamen of the prior century. The Great War saw a rise in global power for the US Military, and naturally, our RAPID evolution through World War II saw the US take over as the greatest military power on Earth... We've all heard the falsely attributed quotation of Adm. Yamamoto after the Pearl Harbor attack - "we cannot invade the US Mainland, as there will be a rifle waiting behind every blade of grass." This was the paradigm through which American Revolutionary War was won - but frankly, even by the 1940s, it was no longer apt (and Yamamoto didn't actually state this, it was a fiction which most likely originated from one of Gen. MacArthur's staff historians). But it has been forever thereafter recognized that any attack on US soil would be met by the swift hammer of the US military - far more consequential than any vengeance to be carried out by the extremely limited capabilities of the US citizenship.
When most countries in the world have a "72hr military force," reliant upon the reaction time of the United States to mobilize and deploy, which was NOT true prior to WWII, we have to recognize, the World in which we're living has changed, so the motivation pertinent to production of this kind of military propaganda aimed towards voluntary skill development of US citizens to supplement federal military forces in the event of national war has largely evaporated. For over a century, US military sentiment was largely - don't mess with us (our military), or our brothers will come beat you up (our citizens). Today, our military has the heightened confidence of a "FAFO" strategy.
hoardingthemanual
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i 100% agree
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