Manufacturer Mark Richland Arms 1858 Remington

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Up for bid at auction is a Richland Arms 1858 Remington brasser. The seller has not shown any photos about the manufacturer except possibly this one on the cylinder.

Any info is very welcome!

Jim

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Ratshooter said:
I have that exact same gun in unfired condition. At least I think its unfired. Under the loading lever it has ASM made in Italy on it. So that would be Army San Marco as the manufacturer.
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Thank you sir! I am still awaiting possible additional photos and info from the seller. My question is about the mark on the cylinder. The ASM mark I am familiar with is the equilateral triangle with the letters ASM inset in sort of a cryptic fashion, and that is usually on the bottom of frame with both proof marks adjacent to the serial number. I have put a small bid on it but won't go too far.

Regards,

Jim
 
I believe that double diamond logo belongs to MOFRA di Mainardi, aka, Euromanufacture (not Euroarms), that later became Palmetto.
do a google image search for "MOFRA di Mainardi" and you will find several photos showing it.

It is possible that Ratshooter has an ASM revolver with a MOFRA cylinder installed.
 
Malachi Leviticus Blue said:
It is possible that Ratshooter has an ASM revolver with a MOFRA cylinder installed.
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I went and got the gun and I don't see any markings on the cylinder. Just under the loading lever and right side of the barrel.

expat_alaska said:
I have put a small bid on it but won't go too far.
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My gun was free. My bud bought it from another friend of mine for $100. The hand spring was broken and you had to point the gun down to get it to rotate the cylinder. I found a new hand for it and my bud bought that. He decided he didn't know how to repair it so I did it for him. I used the old hand and found a drill bit that fit in the hole. Then I slid the new hand on the drill bit and clamped the two hands together. Then I filed the new hand to an exact match and installed it in the gun. That fixed it. My bud said since I repaired it I could just keep it so I did.

This is my OMGtheirtakingmygunsandbanningallgunsandthezombiesarecominggun. And some day I will shoot it. I just bought a mold and now that its cooling down I will have a casting session and try a few of my new molds out.
 
Sorry Ratshooter, I took your first post to mean your revolver had the same markings as shown in the OP.

I have a similar brass frame Remington that I turned into a snub nose with something akin to a birdshead grip a few years ago. I still haven't finished a catch for the cylinder pin.
Mine was marked FIE, [AA] from 1975

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Malachi Leviticus Blue said:
I have a similar brass frame Remington that I turned into a snub nose with something akin to a birdshead grip a few years ago.
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I like that gun and what you did to it. I have looked at it several times. I am not certain but I think the poster here known as Michael Tinker Pearce did something similar and came up with a way to keep the base pin in place. You may want to contact him and ask what he did. The guy is a gun genius.
 
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Thats great. I have never seen those before but it looks like an easy fix. I'm surprised it isn't already done. Pictures when its finished please.

If my gun wasn't a gift I might already have started to make mine like yours. I like it that much. How did you attach the front sight? It looks soldered on. Did you cut a groove in the barrel? Do you have a gizmo to help reload the cylinder since you removed the loading lever? You got some 'splainin to do here.;)
 
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Ratshooter said:
...How did you attach the front sight? It looks soldered on. Did you cut a groove in the barrel? Do you have a gizmo to help reload the cylinder since you removed the loading lever?...
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The front sight is a cut steel washer soldered on.
Yes, I used an evil Dremel with a cutting disc to cut a groove for placement.
Yes I have one of those cheapo loading stand you can find listed everywhere to load the cylinder.

It's the same as this and sold under numerous names -
https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/product/loading-stand-for-black-powder-revolver-cylinders

I acquired it with something else I wanted in an auction, and had way too high of expectation of it.
Gizmo is probably a more accurate description than loading stand.
It performs the minimum amount to be able to say it works, but I've found using my arbor press to be far more satisfying. The arbor press is just not something I would take with me anywhere.
There are several decent loading presses available out there though, and examples of quality DIY versions.
Don't waste any money on anything like the gizmo I linked above.
 
Malachi Leviticus Blue said:
Gizmo is probably a more accurate description than loading stand.
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Thanks. That made me laugh. I thought you might have one of those. There have been a couple of articles in The Backwoodsman magazine where the author cut the barrel off like yours and then used a hollow rod with a ball on the end similar to a short starter and the hollow shaft fit over the end of the cut off rammer and you could load in the normal fashion. I just don't remember how they kept the rammer held in place with the front latch removed.

And I have no problem with you using a Dremel on your gun. Its just a tool. Lack of skill is the danger. Not what you use to screw up your gun with.
 
Malachi Leviticus Blue said:
I believe that double diamond logo belongs to MOFRA di Mainardi, aka, Euromanufacture (not Euroarms), that later became Palmetto.
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MOFRA (de Mainardi Officina Fabrica Replica Armi) was A. Mainardi's logo on a few Paterson replicas imported by Replica Arms of Marietta, Ohio and later by Navy Arms. A. Mainardi then partnered with his brother to form Euromanufacture (as seen on many reproduction molds and flasks) and they used the double interlocking diamonds logo on the identical Patersons and their other revolvers until they were bought out by Palmetto around 1980. I have several Richland Arms imported ASM's so they must have gotten stock from both manufacturers. You see lots of Richland Arms shotguns around as well. I think they were big in the upper Midwest.
 
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