Marlin 336Y "Spikehorn"

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A little while back we were in a LGS and ran across a 336Y, .30-30 youth model.
The Spikehorn is a wonderful little rifle.
16.25" barrel, inch shorter stock, full length tube magazine, pistol grip stock.
It is a great rifle for the kids, smaller stature people, and even as a basis for a tactical/working build up.
I was tickled shatless to find one in the wild.
It shoots well, puts the rounds where you want them.
However... it is a new production Marlin.
Made in the Ilion NY factory out of Marlin and Remington era parts... by Remington employees.
And thats where the monkey throws his wrench into the works.
The thing will not reliably cycle.
Multiple hitches in the lever stroke... and likes to lock in the wide open position.
This is a damn brand new rifle, this lack of function is TOTALLY unacceptable.
And, unfortunately, it is not a rarity.
If you check the forums and youtube it looks epidemic, however we know that people are a lot more likely to say when they are unhappy with a product than when they are happy.
So, I hold out hope that there are some magnificent Remlins out there... I just have not found any yet.

Anyway, back to this rifle.
I got off work early today, so I scattered it across the motel desk and checked it out.
What I saw pissed me off and I attacked it with gusto to try and make it function and spaced out on taking pictures.
Issue #1, I pulled the lever out and the end was as cast. No smoothing or fitting... casting ridge right on the end.
So all force when working the lever was focused on 1/32" of an inch.
So, I reshaped the end of the lever... took off the ridge, smoothed anywhere it touched anything.
The bolt... as cast where it rides over the hammer, rough as hell. Smoothed that and broke the edges. Smoothed up the ejector channel.
The ejector, again... rough as hell with a casting mark thru the middle of it.
The hammer, CASTING MARK... smoothed and reshaped the break over.
Locking bolt, as cast... no finish work. Trued the flats and smoothed it up.
The carrier, yea... it was binding. slimmed it out here and there, removed casting marks, smoothed up cartridge transfer areas.
Thinned out the loading gate spring to make it easier to slide the rounds in.

I still need to hit it with some fine files and stones.
The loading port has some sharp edges that I dont like, as does the ejection port.
But now it cycles rounds just fine, and I left my Slipstream at home... so I know it will surely get better.

I got this rifle for Caryn, my wonderful wife, and I am not about to leave her with a POS that doesnt work.
What I just went thru is not something that should have happened.
I can understand slicking up a firearm to make it as close to perfect as you can get.
But not having to go in and remove metal just to make it function.
I dont have to do that with a Kel Tec... hell, you dont have to do that with a Hi Point.
Raven and Jennings tend to work out of the box.
I have handled newer 1895s that wouldnt cycle the action reliably while EMPTY.
Most people would have boxed it up and sent it back in or asked for a refund.
I have dinked with these long enough to do most of the basic work on them myself.
But I shouldnt have to... and neither should anyone else.
If... IF... Remington moves their companies out of NY, maybe they will get a new focus and some employees willing to make a functional lever action.
Hell, if they moved to SC I may apply for the job.


Jim
 
Now you have done it, I had to pull mine out just to try it. Mine is a 336C in 35 Remington and it has functioned with out a problem. I can't say it's been broken in, just shot to sight in my scope and try out a few loads I made up for it.

I also have to admit that it was made BEFORE Remington got their hands on Marlin.

Feeds with no problems, ejects with no problems, but it is a bit rough on the up stroke when closing the bolt. I am sure that will wear down and work smoothly.

Don't scare us like that (336 owners). Remington has been bought and sold I believe 3 or 4 times over the last 50 years, and while a lot of people like their rifles, I just don't trust the company and those that own and run it. But that's just me.

I am not eactly a lever action fan, but the 336C rifle is my go to deer hunting gun when I don't need my 270 for that task.

Jim
 
I agree on the old Marlins, but the youth models are not easy to find... so I grabbed it.
It works fine now, I just got irritated that it HAD to have work.


Jim
 
I did not think the new ones were called Spikehorns, the Spikehorns had walnut stocks, not stained birch, and have not been produced in quite a few years, before Remington took over.
 
Now you have done it, I had to pull mine out just to try it. Mine is a 336C in 35 Remington

Same rifle and caliber. My serial number puts the manufacture date in the early 80s, long before Remington got their hands on Marlin. Never had a problem with feeding any rounds. Checked mine as well. The only thing I don't like about mine is it has the cross bolt safety. I just don't use it.
 
Bought one of the "rem" spikehorns, as got in exitment of short barrel.short stock 30-30. Sent it back to Marlin as the chamber was scored deep enough to prevent extraction, stock quickly became loose. To their credit they repkaced the barrel and stock, but the forearm then loosened up.
 
One of the great atrocities of the 21st Century was the jetisoning of the Marlin production crew at New Haven CT when Marlin production was moved to Remington in NY.

You can buy a name, but you cannot buy the tradition that made that name.:(
 
I realize that we may be splitting hairs, and by the link you provided, some vendors are still referring to them as Spikehorns, but I don't believe RemMarlin calls them Spikehorns, just the 336Y.

That link you provided shows a picture of an actual Spikehorn, with black walnut stock, however, underneath the picture, the description says walnut finished hardwood. Then later in the same paragraph when it uses the term "Spikehorn", it says american black walnut. The next paragraph is back to saying it has a walnut finished hardwood stock.

So, I think that Impact Guns is using the description of the Spikehorn, which was pre-Remington and had walnut stocks, and applying it to the current 336Y. I have not seen the 336Y referred to as the Spikehorn on Marlins website or in catalogs for a few years now, since before Remingtons takeover.
 
Just saying that vendors, owners, and enthusiasts are referring to them as Spikehorns.
They are not on Marlins website, it has been a while since they were offered new... mine must have been sitting in a warehouse for a while.
It also has laminate stocks.


Jim
 
Does anyone know if these are new production guns? Heck with the December announcement that Cerberus is selling Freedom Group, are new Marlins being produced? How's the quality lately???

Over the past couple of months, Buds has shown the Spikehorn in inventory, then sold out, then in inventory, then sold out, now in inventory again. I'm tempted to buy one, but I don't want to have delivered to my FFL a lousy quality gun already returned by an unhappy customer.
 
Remlin Kit Guns

So, may I be thr first to say, and coin the phrase "Remington and Marlin only make kit guns"!

Your spikehorn is rough? Try buying an 870 Express shotgun -- what a POS they've become.
 
I actually found one in the wild last night and got to mess around with it. Seemed like the action was a little rough when cycling empty but I felt like I had seen a unicorn.
 
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