Marlin announcement from Ruger

[Dale Alan]

Not a theory, fact. Henry rimfire leverguns have a zinc alloy internal receiver with a painted aluminum cover.

Now it's an alloy ? I thought you called it pot metal ? Hate the Henrys all you want , Metallurgy facts are facts .Your use of pot metal is just your negative twist on Henry .

 

[CraigC]

Zinc alloy = pot metal and I own two of them. Both need to go back to the mothership. I think that entitles me to an opinion. Milled steel is "better" than pot metal and spray painted aluminum.

 

[HoosierHunter128]

Another wrench, CZ makes the best rimfires under $1000. Accurate, usually nice wood, easy to maintain…lots of options for different stocks and models…I like both Ruger and Marlin but didn’t choose either for my .22 or 17HMR

 

[Trey Veston]

The 39A is going to be a tough nut to crack in this market. The market is unwilling to pay the high price required to make a faithful 39A the way Marlin did. No doubt they would sell some but the number of people willing to pay that high price would dry up long before Ruger recover the cost of figuring out how to make it and setting up production. Remington never could and not for lack of trying. How much was a 39A out of the Remington Custom Shop? IIRC $3200+ depending on options and that was built on nearly complete 39A's from before Remington bought Marlin.

When I was 10, my mom and stepdad bought me a Marlin 39A for Christmas. My biological father owned a chain of sporting goods stores and bought me a Browning BLR22 Grade II. It was an awkward Christmas morning, but my parents agreed the Browning was nicer and didn't think I needed two .22 lever guns, so returned the Marlin.

Today, I can go buy a brand new Browning for $500, while the Marlin no longer exists.

 

[rromeo]

That's why Buffalo Bore makes S&W only loads, right?

"Ruger Only" really just meant "don't use this in a 100 year old Colt SAA."

 

[rromeo]

I found a Henry 30-30 new for around $875 NIB. That’s more than I want to pay for that. I actually want a stainless steel 30-30 with open sights to deer hunt in the rain with, walking. For my purposes, I’m hoping Ruger comes out with one in the $4-600 range.

I can't see how they can make a stainless model for less than they were selling the blued 336 for, and still have quality.

 

[dranrab]

I don’t have to see fatigue failures to know that milled, blued steel is far better than pot metal with a painted aluminum cover.

"Far better" at what?

 

[rromeo]

Im gonna throw a wrench in the mix here. How about a Winchester 60? Mine dates back to the 30's.
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Sure, nice rifle, but is Ruger going to make it?

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

No i doubt Ruger would make a copy of a single shot Winchester. It would be cool if they did. I only use standard velocity ammo in the old rifle.

 

[Speedo66]

It will upset the purist but I actually hope they don't tool up and build the 39a in its original form because then it will continue to be very expensive. I am hoping they put the ruger engineers to work to redesign it a little into something that aligns with 21st century manufacturing economics. Something in the $300-400 range to compete with henry.

A “Wrangler” version of a 39A?

I hope I never see the day…. lol

 

[danez71]

"Far better" at what?

Well, not rust but in terms of structurally, just about everything.

 

[CraigC]

"Ruger Only" really just meant "don't use this in a 100 year old Colt SAA."

Or your brand new S&W.

"Far better" at what?

Far better at making it into a permanent place in my collection.

 

[someguy2800]

A “Wrangler” version of a 39A?

I hope I never see the day…. lol

yes precisely what I was thinking. I would much rather see them build a product that actually makes economic sense for them to build and for people to buy then a $1500 custom shop thing that is doomed to be discontinued.

 

[someguy2800]

"Far better" at what?

being more expensive among other things

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I don't like the idea a Wrangler version of a 39A either. I don't like the Wranglers either. Because of the finish they used. Silly reason i guess lol.

 

[Jim Watson]

I've got it!
They should produce a Ballard single shot.
Marlin history, the Ballard was Mr Marlin's very first rifle after years of making undistinguished revolvers, well ahead of his lever action repeaters.
Ruger technology, the Ballard was originally produced by casting.

 

[rromeo]

Or your brand new S&W.

I don't like the idea a Wrangler version of a 39A either. I don't like the Wranglers either. Because of the finish they used. Silly reason i guess lol.

Chiappa sold one a few years ago for about $400. I don't know if it's still made.

 

[someguy2800]

Chiappa sold one a few years ago for about $400. I don't know if it's still made.

Never heard of it before but that sure is a 39a clone. Receiver looks like a painted die casting.

https://www.chiappafirearms.com/product.php?id=175

 

[dranrab]

Well, not rust but in terms of structurally, just about everything.

That's why I asked about fatigue failures with Henry pot metal parts. If they are not failing, then how is pot metal a problem? The truth is that pot metal is perfectly acceptable in the low stress applications where Henry uses it. A Ruger 10/22 receiver is an aluminum alloy. Not as strong as steel, but perfectly acceptable in that application.

 

[Robert]

We seem to have gone way off in the bushes on this one. Let's see what they actually do and then we can talk about that.