Mayor Bloomberg on stand your ground and the NRA

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What's sad is Bloomie doesn't have a clue that he's a minority in this country.
The majority of states allow guns and CCW.
Most of those states are democratic and not republican.

AFS
 
Not me, if there was a crime being commited in front I would fall back to a safe... I mean an area where I could help coordinate with LE by cell phone. Way back.
 
The two most dangerous things in New York...guns and unhealthy foods. So he has a crusade to practically ban both but gets all the transfatty fried chicken and armed goons he wants. What a great example he sets!
 
Calling Mayor Bloomberg an idiot is a serious mistake.He is intelligent, articulate and educated. He has a carefully thought out agenda and a plan to accomplish it. Adolph Hitler was insane, but he wasn't stupid. Bloomie is a power hungry meglomaniac who want to rule like a dictator, but dumb he ain't.

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMY!
 
"vigilantism"

Isn't that what the Black Panthers did by putting a bounty on Zimmerman's head?
How do they get away with it? I thought we were a Nation of Laws.
Wake up White people.
 
New Black Panthers. Different group, and it was a citizen's arrest bounty, not a hit. I knew it was only a matter of time before someone brought in Hitler. I wonder who the popular bad guy was before Hitler was around.
 
"New Black Panthers. Different group, and it was a citizen's arrest bounty, not a hit. I knew it was only a matter of time before someone brought in Hitler. I wonder who the popular bad guy was before Hitler was around."

So this is legal in the USA?
 
What's the plan of action here? Concern isn't enough.
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Ensure that SYG laws don't protect vigilantes while still protecting people acting in self-defense. If they do protect vigilantes, modify the law to exclude them. If the Court's are misinterpreting the law, add language which makes it unambiguous and only protects self-defense.

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I knew it was only a matter of time before someone brought in Hitler.
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Godwin's Law -"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

What's the plan of action here? Concern isn't enough.
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At a minimum I think that it's worth writing your state legislature and letting them know your stance on these issues. IMHO the Castle Doctrine had very little to do with anything in this case and it's all just political posturing.

Bloomberg is not an elected official in my state. I would like to think that my state legislature feels the same way that I do about it, but in case they do not, I'll remind them.

Can you imagine the fuss they'd make if the governor of, say Alaska, had the audacity to launch a campaign against the Sullivan Act?
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I'd prefer the Gov of Alaska launch a campaign against the ACLU for NOT defending the RBKA.

Ensure that SYG laws don't protect vigilantes while still protecting people acting in self-defense.
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Is this something that is running rampant and I have been missing it? Most people weren't even familiar with Florida's SYG until this case and now there are vigilantes out there... that aren't the New Black Panther party?
 
It's starting to cause concern, the current case in the courts down here in FL. I have relatives who are emailing me, who I haven't heard from in ages, asking about the "stand your ground law", "as our biased media has coined it. It's bad PR for the states where the Castle Doctrine is in effect, and now before an election, a case could be made by the liberal media for a shot at repealling our states gun laws in this area. I explained to them that this guy was just a stupid person, and not the norm but rather the exeption to the majority of lawfull gun carrying folks who quietlly go about their business. My fear is that this blows up into a national debate. which is what they are trying to do. I also ask them why all these guys have armed bodygaurds if it's so safe out there for us.
 
The way I see it, Bloomberg doesn't have a dog in this race where the Zimmerman/Martin case is concerned.

In regards to the SYG laws, I haven't yet seen a case personally (and I've read a LOT of self defense case briefs... I focused on RKBA and self defense cases while in college for my research papers) where Stand Your Ground laws protected someone that was obviously in the wrong.

Of course Bloomberg and all the anti-gun proponents are going to attack SYG, Castle Doctrine and RKBA in general. The thing they don't or won't understand is that taking guns from law abiding citizens is not going to prevent violence at all. Look at New York, Bloomberg's home city... It's got one of the highest crime rates per capita in the country. Bloomberg himself won't go out in public in his own city without multiple armed guards.

Oh, and Old krow: Second time Godwin's law was invoked today on THR :p
 
Given that the "uplifters" railed against by H.L. Mencken in 1925, to Mad Ave Exec Carl Bakal in the 1960s, to Bloomberg today have tried to ram a federal version of the Sullivan Act down the throats of the rest of us, we outside NY do have the right to criticize the Sullivan Act.

http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/rkba-25.html
H. L. Mencken, "The Uplifters Try It Again", Baltimore Sun, 30 Nov 1925.
 
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Given that the "uplifters" railed against by H.L. Mencken in 1925, to Mad Ave Exec Carl Bakal in the 1960s, to Bloomberg today have tried to ram a federal version of the Sullivan Act down the throats of the rest of us, we outside NY do have the right to criticize the Sullivan Act.

http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/rkba-25.html
H. L. Mencken, "The Uplifters Try It Again", Baltimore Sun, 30 Nov 1925.
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Thanks for that link! Always loved Mencken!
It is striking how the argumments the antigunners used haven't changed in 87 years!!!!
Same old...same old...same old.....
 
To sum it up, I will protect myself and my family regardless if I have the 'blessings' of the state or not.
 
I think the plan of action in this particular case is to let the courts do the job of airing out Zimmerman's affirmative defense. If my understanding of the way these laws work is accurate then if it can be proven that he initiated the conflict he has no "ground" to "stand". That would make all the noise about SYG laws just that- noise.

I was listening to Jesse Jackson's XM Radio show last weekend (an act of self-flagellation) and he went on a tirade about SYG laws and tossed in the need to bring back the AWB in the same barely-intelligible rant. All the good little commies are trying to exploit this tragedy to drive their own agendas. Why should Bloomberg be any different?
 
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I wonder if this fella has any firearms? He is such a ....... un-likeable person.

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