MD: Man Shot At By Paintball Gun Filled With Marbles

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I may be 15, But I think you hit the nail on the head, Standing Wolf.
Completely sane people acting stupid just really p@%#es me off.:cuss: Assuming he was completely sane.;)

Big Country
 
the Term Paintball Marker also applies to Lumber industry. back in early days IIRC

paintball guns can be screwed with to fire the projectile faster. paintballs are only meant to fly 260-320 most fields of play prefer 280-300fps much higher and it will leave bruises and welts. they can damage soft tissue eyes,ears,nut sack,testicles you dont want them to take a paintball pointblank.

could of maybe have been worse. ball bearings:eek:. jack the air up and you got a good weapon could really hurt someone good.
 
Last I knew there was no law against pulling out a 9mm a drilling the little jerks if they shoot at you...............
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There are many laws against pulling out a 9mm and "drilling the little jerks." One, this is MD so you can't carry- criminal charges if you have a 9mm with you to pull out (illegal carry, brandishing, assault, etc). Two, if you are a member of the priviliged class that is allowed a CCW (police, some security company employees, friends of important people, and business owners who deal in large amounts of cash, guns or jewelry) you have the "duty" to retreat if you aren't at home- I think you'd have trouble proving you couldn't find a safe place to hide from a paintball gun. Last, no prosecutor anywhere (and especially not in MD) is going to see that paintball gun as a deadly weapon and the threat against you as life or death- attempted or outright murder charges when you escalate to deady force and shoot the kid.

You know what they say about if you only have a hammer everything starts to look like a nail. If facing this you need a more creative solution or you will be going to jail for a long time.
 
I've played paintball roughly eight years. Four years competatively in tournaments, ranging from local tournaments, to the PSP, to the NPPL.

I would, based on my experience with paintball, return fire if fired upon by a paintball gun outside of a paintball field if i felt that I was in danger, and it wasn't some punk just trying to scare me. I will not lose my eyesight, or life, on a prank. I feel I have the knowledge and experience that I could defend myself in court, even more so with an experienced lawyer.


1) 300fps is the maximum WORLDWIDE accepted speed for safety. Many (all) guns can fire faster if you give it higher gas pressure, higher spring pressure, higher (slower) valve setting, etc.
(As a side note, I call shenanigans on whoever said they got a paintball up to 900fps. I just don't think its possible to get one past 450-500 unless... Well I don't even know how, nor will i pretend to. They just aren't made for it)

2) 300fps is the standard for safety, GIVEN THAT participants are wearing proper safety equipment, which I would not be wearing, leaving my tender, loving eyes exposed to the potential (ie : no guarantee of safety during retreat, and potential for severe physical damage, such as losing my eye)
of being destroyed.

3) Paintballs can be frozen. It leaves a small welt when it hits you if safety precautions are taken.
3a) I have no guarantee it is not frozen\altered\actually a "standard" weight paintball
3b) I have no mask, protecting my face/neck/temple/ears.

4) If the little bugger is doing it to me, he's probably going to do it to someone else. (In theory, I suppose I could come to the aid of someone
else who is being fired upon by paintball guns, seeing that PA state law says I can use force to defend someone else, if I would be justified in using it, if I was that person who I am defending)

Pick me apart, I'll only end up smarter if I get feedback...
 
In states where you do not have a "retreat obligation", it would probably be justified, because if you are hit the eye with a paintball, even one moving below 300fps, it'll destroy your vision, at the very least.
 
If you murder a kid who is shooting random paintballs at you, you will go to jail for a long time and deservedly so. Period.

A paintball gun is not a lethal weapon, never has been, never will be. I played paintball several times a month for years and can count the number of times I've seen a paintball break the skin on one hand.

9mm is not a proper response to a paintball, and the prosecuting attorney would have an absolute field day... and Mr. 9mm would deserve what was coming to him.
 
If you murder a kid who is shooting random paintballs at you, you will go to jail for a long time and deservedly so. Period.
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They were using marbles, not paint balls.

In most states the standard for use of deadly force is that the person had to believe he was in danger of suffering grievous bodily injury or death. If it turns out that he wasn't (debatable in this case, he very well could have been) the standard then becomes would a reasonable person (average, reasonable person on the street, not a firearms expert or avid paint baller)believe this.

If he was shot with something that looks like a gun, and is hit with something coming from that gun causing the amount of pain a marble would obviously cause, or saw the effects of the marble striking nearby buildings, cars, or glass, there is nothing unreasonable in thinking you are being shot at and returning fire.

No one caught in this situation who returned fire would deserve to go to jail for any amount of time.
 
ttbadboy,

If you don't think that a paintball marker can't kill or injure.

Lewis & Clark's Air Rifle

An air rifle used for hunting large game.

With some modifications, I can see a "paintball" gun being quite deadly. All you'd have to do would be reinforce some of the system for higher air pressures, maybe add a longer barrel.

Paintballs officially top out around 300 fps, real handgun rounds start around 900.

It seems to me that with some work, like boosting the pressure,flow, and duration of the air burst, as well as lengthing the barrel could make a gun that would be just as deadly as a handgun.
 
I play paintball too. I figured something like this would happen soon.

I started playing 5 years ago, at age 15. These days I've played on fields that were half 10 year olds. A lot of kids are getting into it now, and they are treating the paintball guns as toys, they are unsafe with them, they shoot at people without eye protection, they point them at each other and go "don't worry, it's not loaded", and so on. And they are always dry-firing with air, which gets pretty annoying after a while.

Another point: I do believe there was an incident where a shooter returned fire and killed someone shooting at them with paintballs. They didn't go to prison.

That was for paintballs too, ball bearings and marbles is a whole other level, and with the velocity bumped up, they are definately dangerous weapons. I have seen people go dizzy from a normal shot to the head, hell, I have gone dizzy once from a shot that went between my mask and head and caught me behind the ear.

Marbles from a paintball gun, especially at higher velocity, could potentially kill or knock unconscious, and that just might lead to death.

That kid also shouldn't have been released to his parents, that's assault with a (deadly) weapon, not "boys will be boys".
 
These are defined as a firearm in my state. Obvious conclusions can be drawn from that but I think it's a good thing. They're far from toys.

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28.421. Firearms; definitions.
Sec.1. As used in this act:
(a) “Firearm†means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, B.B.s not exceeding .177 caliber.
 
Anne Arundel County police told 11 News officers responded to the scene where they arrested and charged a 16-year-old with reckless endangerment and destruction of property. The teen -- who police said admitted to shooting at the vehicle using a paintball gun -- has since been released to the custody of his parents.
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Thats the problem with Maryland.

They enact overbroad laws, then when some idiot does something dumb, they release him to his parents.

Across the river in Virginia, he'd be locked up on attempted homocide charges, if not worse
 
I have trouble figuring out how they get this to work. I tried it in 1989 with my brand spanking new Tippman SL-68, and both marbles and ball bearings went about 12 feet forward and 2 feet left before they hit the ground. I thought paintballs go like they do because they weigh next to nothing, and are a relatively close fit to the bore? I sometimes use marbles in my slingshot, and they are not close to .68 or .62 caliber... Was there some radical new innovation in the paintball world to make this work? I remember we tried it with a Splatmaster, and a Brass Eagle Barracuda, and then and SL-68 II, and it just wouldn't work...
And isn't there still a huge reward for paintball gun vandals, sponsored by all those people who put on the tournaments?
 
Doing some quick research, apparently there are different sizes of paintballs, thus different sized barrels are available. Maybe the kid found a good fit with some overlarge marbles and a smaller barrel.
 
I've seen, in some mail order cataloge or other, .68 caliber solid hard plastic balls intended for firing from a paintball marker. Could be that his "marbles" were something like that.
 
the different sized pb barrels are only larger by a couple of thousandths

.680, .684, .686, .688, .690, .692

part of the problems is the walmart markers
expect the new 189 dollar cockers this xmas to be abused
 
For anyone good at physics...

The specific density of window glass is 2.579 -- about two and a half times as dense as water.

I think we can assume that a paintball is slightly less dense than water: The paint is probably about the same, and the shell is definitely lighter,

So let's say that a marble weighs 3x as much as a paint ball of the same diameter.

Can't we, then, conclude that it'll fly at 1/3 the speed out of the same gun?

Now that I think about it, the weight of the projectile shouldn't matter -- only the rigidity of the projectile. A paint ball dissipates some of its force by breaking. A marble probably wouldn't.

Other than that, it ought to act about the same, right?
 
In the film biz, when the stunts crew needs to show bullet holes being shot in a car window while someone is inside it, they often use something much like this- a compressed air gun shooting marbles.
 
I only know one thing about this situation:

If I'm driving along, merrily mindng my own business, and something (or things) that look suspiciously like bullet holes start appearing through my window glass, then I'll either:

1. Drive off at the highest rate of speed I can safely muster whilst simultaneously crouching at or below dashboard level,

2. Drive directly at the source of the bullet holes, hoping that the shooter will NOT be able to shoot from directly underneath my car,

or

3. Something else. Depending on situational logistics, tactical appearances, etc.

I'll not stick around, trying to identify whether the source of the bullet holes is in fact a firearm, or merely "a toy"...
 
A couple of years ago I took my oldest paintballing, and one of the little bastards who was also there shot him with a FROZEN paintball.

The kid had his gun loaded with them.

Even though my son was wearing heavy clothes, it still cracked two of his ribs and caused SEVERE deep bruising because it was such a close shot.

There was some question for a bit whether the sac laying over the lungs was lacerated or not.

The boy, 14 or so, was arrested and charged with assault, but the judge let him off with a slap on the wrist.

His father thought he could laugh it off as a "boys will be boys" kind of thing.

He didn't even seem to care that it's very likely that a frozen paint ball would penetrate the goggles that most of these kids wear, or that a shot to an unprotected part of the head could kill someone.

When I told him I expected him to pony up for the medical bills he got really indignant and defensive, so I ended up suing to recover the medical expenses, which ran about $8,000 by the time all was said and done.
 
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