MD: Tactical differences split gun advocates

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Tactical differences split gun advocates

http://www.gazette.net/200510/weekend/a_section/264656-1.html
by Steven T. Dennis
Staff Writer
Mar. 11, 2005


ANNAPOLIS -- A split over lobbying tactics is roiling the gun rights community, with activist Jim Purtilo fearing that efforts by rivals to push hard for a politically explosive and doomed right-to-carry bill will backfire on plans to repeal the state's ballistic fingerprinting law.

Purtilo, publisher of the newsletter Tripwire, has set up a Web site, www.squirreltalk.net, mocking gun advocates who are pushing this year's right-to-carry legislation as politically naive.

"The only reason to advance this again is political grandstanding and big egos, and we'd rather measure our successes by real gains won, not by how many battles we gloriously lose for the right reason," Purtilo said.

But Donald Hoffman of Maryland Shall Issue, a Libertytown group backing the right-to-carry bill, blasts Purtilo, saying that they need to keep the pressure on if they are ever going to pass it.

"No war has ever been won fighting a defensive action," Hoffman said, holding a copy of John R. Lott Jr.'s "More Guns, Less Crime" outside the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday. "We need to let the anti-gun people know we're here and we're kicking butt."

Hoffman and a group of pro-gun folks sported stickers saying, "Maryland Gun Owners Vote" with "Remember Cas Taylor" in fine print. Gun advocates played a major role in defeating the former House speaker in 2002 after he ushered through ballistic fingerprinting and the trigger lock law.

Hoffman said Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. (R) would prefer to deal with issues such as right-to-carry after the 2006 election, but gun owners do not know if he will be re-elected.

"He's afraid of any gun bill reaching his desk because he's afraid of pissing anybody off," Hoffman said, but "he needs us to be out there working for him."

Although they like Ehrlich, Hoffman said, his group would like to see more tangible pro-gun legislation.

"We don't want to cause him any pain, but we have to do what we have to do," he said. "We need to let them know that we're alive and kicking."

But Purtilo said the gun community needs to "show some political maturity" and not whack lawmakers on a bill that has no hope of passing this year if they want to win on the ballistic fingerprinting bill.

Purtilo points to Del. Donald H. Dwyer Jr.'s aborted attempt to petition the gay marriage ban to the House floor, which prompted House Speaker Michael E. Busch's subsequent threat to nuke all Republican legislation.

Dwyer (R-Dist. 31) of Glen Burnie also is the sponsor of the right-to-carry bill, which would make it easier for Marylanders to get permits to carry handguns because they no longer would have to prove to the State Police that they have "a good and substantial reason" to do so.

Purtilo said that expending energy on a fruitless battle over the right-to-carry legislation could harm the pro-gun advocates in the long term.

"Our people, once they realize their time has been wasted on something useless, they tend to go away and not come back," he said. "There is nothing that would be better for promoting the right to carry next year than to repeal [fingerprinting] this year."

Putting in right-to-carry bills year after year also trains the legislature to defeat them year after year, which is counterproductive, Purtilo said.

The gun community already won a victory because Ehrlich has eliminated funding for the ballistic fingerprinting program, which has not successfully caught any criminals, but gun manufacturers must still provide test shell casings to the state. As a result, many guns are not available in Maryland, limiting the choices for gun buyers, Purtilo said.

The success of the repeal would have a national impact, he said, given Maryland's status as the first state to institute the program.

"Other states that have been looking at this are watching Maryland. Either this form of gun control gets legs and goes nationally, or it gets put to rest," Purtilo said.

But Hoffman said he is not putting his energy into the repeal.

"It's dead," he said. "The governor's already defunded it."
 
You know, I don't even know who Jim Purtilo is. Hell I just moved to MD two years ago and have been dealing with some health issues. First he makes unsubstantiated claims that MSI is working with the Brady bunch that I know personally is wrong, now this.

You know folks if we don't stop this BS and start working together we will self destruct and MD will become the next NJ, NY or CA.

That goes for both sides.
 
I think Jim Purtilo is the ONE person who needs to stop the BS, but I doubt he will take advice from anyone. I guess I'm not helping repair the "rift" by criticizing him, but his web site and comments to the Gazette when way over the line. Tripwire has lost my support.

Greg
 
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I agree it's over the line. You, we, can't do anything about that. His web site is free speech. I guess someone needs to keep their side of the street clean so it needs to start somewhere. Obviously Jim Purtilo has decided to dirty his side of the street. We cannot let Ceasfire MD http://www.ceasefiremd.org/ get a hold of this and use it against us. This fragmentation can be our undoing.
 
Good point molonlabe. Unfortunately, by starting that web site and having it advertised in the Gazette, I would assume that Cease Fire is already aware of our problems. I guess we need to take the high road and try to minimize the damage.
 
Moderators,

Let's get this thread locked right now. This thread is going to go nowhere fast and nothing good is going to come of it.

I'm trying to at least put an end to things from the other side and have been working all morning to do so. If we let things get out of hand here it will only add fuel to an already raging fire in public.

There is already debate going on in the public eye that doesn't need to be rehashed and enhanced here.

I'll discuss things via PM with anyone who is concerned over this article and the website.

Norton
 
Looks like my PM sent to the e-mail address on trip wire bounced back. Norton if you have contact info for him send the e-mail copy I sent you. Meanwile I will search for some contact information on the site again.
 
so, locking the thread prevents what?

The cat was out of the bag when the Gazette went to press Friday.

i don't see any THR members attacking each other here.
 
I don't believe we can keep a lid on this since the first shot has already been fired. I also don't believe this thread should be shut down and we should maintain the high road. In other words keep our side of the street clean, attempt to contact Jim Purtilo and resolve this in the back rooms and not the media. That may mean that people keep their private opinions to themselves and work toward unifying us not splitting us. That may be to say nothing.
 
The cat was out of the bag when the Gazette went to press Friday.
Absolutely correct, Harry. The best thing Purtilo can do is shut down his web-site and apologize to Henry and Steve. Ok, I'll be realistic and only anticipate that the web-site will be shut-down.

Greg
 
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