Memphis, Jacksonville (big city) - Same carry as "Quick trip to the store"?

[CDW4ME]

Anticipated threat factor into carry, or is it consistent? (Excluding work, if applicable)

I carry a handgun I'd prefer to defend myself with anywhere, everywhere; so, same carry for me if going to a big city or shopping at local Publix grocery.

Same carry everywhere? (Excepting work, if applicable)
Yes.
No.

 

[Hangingrock]

My EDC is a S&W Shield 9X19MM. I do not do carry rotation of different handguns. To those that do each to their own applies.

 

[jstert]

my different carry pieces are rural versus suburban/urban: in the latter i must be deeply (lawfully) concealed for social reasons, though i generally avoid two-legged predator zones. while in rural areas i can print to my heart’s content, plus the predators could be four-legged.

 

[Zerodefect]

No. But your no vote makes no sense.

Concealment requirements dictate carry for me. Less threat, but might carry more gun because:
It's raining, and I have a coat I wont be taking off.

Big city event might require deep concealment.

Hot weather.

Big city trip has multiple venues I'm visiting. My carry wardrobe has to fit the lowest common denominator. While a short grocery store trip is optimized for what I'm wearing only that hour.

 

[Pudge]

my different carry pieces are rural versus suburban/urban: in the latter i must be deeply (lawfully) concealed for social reasons, though i generally avoid two-legged predator zones. while in rural areas i can print to my heart’s content, plus the predators could be four-legged.

I believe the OP's point is that, if you're going to be attacked, you need to have the weapon you would want on you, to defend yourself from the attack. So, if you're attacked by a bear, you need to have the appropriate firearm on you to defend yourself, whether you're in the mall, downtown trying to score some meth, or backpacking in the deep woods, when the bear attacks, you need to have your bear gun on you. 24-7, 365.

 

[defjon]

This feels familiar. Have we done this before?

Does one gun do everything? Do you only own one, or one example if you believe in having a back up?

 

[CapnMac]

Carry is carry.

There's a very old adage about only bringing a pistol to a gunfight. Which is why the notion of a "light" EDC versus a "heavy" EDC rubs me wrong. Which--for me--dovetails nicely with the old bon mot about "the .22 you have beats the .44 at home" nicely.

Mind, by training and experience, I'm sore disinclined to which to engage goblins, hoodlums, and similar ne'er-do-wells on any sort of "equal" footing. I see no utility in closing with enemies to their preferred engagement range. I carry a pistol so that I can disengage from contact and retire to safety. If needs must, I'll stand, but want a rifle the whole time.

This feels familiar. Have we done this before?

Yeah, it's a re-occurring theme and question.

 

[WrongHanded]

I look at it the other way:

A greater anticipated threat, coupled with unfamiliar territory, equals a desire for increased firepower.

My local grocery store just isn't gangland territory. Neither is the small city I live in, the city I work in, or the space between the two. This might be a hard concept for someone living in a major urban sprawl to understand, but it's still true.

 

[bdickens]

Dear God, not again!

 

[WrongHanded]

Dear God, not again!

Yes, apparently again.

 

[trackskippy]

I happen to agree with the OP, and have practiced the same thing on a daily basis for about 45 years now. If youre going to bother carrying a gun, it should be the one you shoot best with, and have the best chance of prevailing with, in as many situations as possible.

Look at it this way, that boy in the recent mall shooting, was "just at the mall", with no expectation of being in a bad area, or scary place, and if all he had had, was an LCP, or one of the other currently popular pocket handguns, that so many seem to think are sufficient as a primary gun, I seriously doubt, things would have turned out as they did.

The whole point here is, bad things happen everywhere, and at any given moment, and not generally on "your schedule". When you need a gun, you need the best gun you can carry with you, ALL the time. Not just when you think you might have some trouble.

These days, I live in what most would consider a very safe, very rural area, and I still carry a Glock 17, all day, every day. Its no different than anything else I carry with me every day either, nor have any of the other, usually full size handguns Ive always carried in the past. And most of the time I was carrying, I was doing so in NPE's, and wearing everyday clothes, and nothing out of the ordinary or out of place for where I was.

In the 15 years or so now that we have lived where we are now, there have been a number of fairly high profile type murders and assaults within a 30 to 45 minute drive of where we live. One was 400 yards from our house (one of three of our closest neighbors). Dont for a minute believe, that bad things cant happen, even if you live in what you think are good places. When you need that gun, you need it, and you need it NOW, and it had best be the gun you shoot regularly with, in realistic practice, and you'd better be as best as you can be with it to boot.

Just out of curiosity, how many here would be able to do what that boy at the mall did, 8 hits out of 10 rounds at around 40 yards, with the gun you have on you right this minute? And you do have a gun on you right this minute, right?

 

[Zerodefect]

There's no way I can conceal a Glock41 or keep a 1911 from rusting, everyday.

Some days require a compromise.

 

[drk1]

Had to take a friend to the doctor's office the other day which required driving across a medium size mid-western city. Hardly Memphis or Jacksonville. Went to "Memphis in May" twenty some years ago and wouldn't dream of going there today! In any event, twenty years ago the route I selected for this doctor's visit would have been a pretty direct path across the city and taken about 25 - 30 minutes. However, the "situation" has deteriorated so much in the last twenty years, that the route today was all the way around the outer beltway of the city and took nearly an hour and a half. Of course the building where the doctor's office was located was a "gun free zone" and neither I nor my friend walk very good, so between the parked car and walking into the builiding, we were like sitting -- or more accurately slowly walking -- ducks! That's why I brought my little black bag with the oxygen hose coming out of it. I don't use oxygen, but that bag allows me to carry almost anything I may need. Fortunately, no one asked about it because the "oxygen generator" was an AR pistol and 2 twenty round mags. So, yeah, the destination and the route determine the preparation.

 

[bdickens]

I happen to agree with the OP, and have practiced the same thing on a daily basis for about 45 years now. If youre going to bother carrying a gun, it should be the one you shoot best with, and have the best chance of prevailing with, in as many situations as possible

I happen to agree with the OP as well, but Jeez, it sure gets tiresome when every thread he starts and everything he posts in other people's threads is some variation on this same thing.

 

[JERRY]

Where do you have more chances of getting violently victimized by a criminal? City or county?

 

[trackskippy]

I happen to agree with the OP as well, but Jeez, it sure gets tiresome when every thread he starts and everything he posts in other people's threads is some variation on this same thing.

I get it. It does. But so does constantly being told the opposite and youre either paranoid or way over the edge for doing so. I guess its just boredom on both sides. Of course, there's still only one side thats truly "prepared". Hows that?

Where do you have more chances of getting violently victimized by a criminal? City or county?

Yes.

 

[Tallball]

If there's an anticipated threat, I don't go. Really. There are very few places that I have to go.

My preferred grocery store and gas station are a few hundred yards from the local PD.

 

[Kleanbore]

Where do you have more chances of getting violently victimized by a criminal? City or county?

What does that have to do with it?

If there's an anticipated threat, I don't go.

Good thinking.

 

[rtroha]

My preferred grocery store and gas station are a few hundred yards from the local PD.

For 13 years I worked at a school that was across the street from the police station. That didn't make me feel any safer because I knew they were out on the road, scattered all around the city taking calls, not sitting around the station waiting for something to happen.

 

[CDW4ME]

my different carry pieces are rural versus suburban/urban: in the latter i must be deeply (lawfully) concealed for social reasons, though i generally avoid two-legged predator zones. while in rural areas i can print to my heart’s content, plus the predators could be four-legged.

Question asked is big city versus trip to store (local), its not about woods.

 

[CDW4ME]

No. But your no vote makes no sense.

Concealment requirements dictate carry for me. Less threat, but might carry more gun because:
It's raining, and I have a coat I wont be taking off.

Big city event might require deep concealment.

Hot weather.

Big city trip has multiple venues I'm visiting. My carry wardrobe has to fit the lowest common denominator. While a short grocery store trip is optimized for what I'm wearing only that hour.

I thought it was a fairly clear question.
Your reply suggest that clothing dictates your carry more than location, clothing would be a different question.

 

[CDW4ME]

This feels familiar. Have we done this before?

Does one gun do everything? Do you only own one, or one example if you believe in having a back up?

I have not done this thread before; perhaps it seems similar to another.
That said, what if someone had done a thread similar to this in the past; the forum members that responded then, their replies might be different than now and there would be some who didn't reply then but might now and some who were not members then. Also threads frequently get derailed, maybe locked.

Does one gun do everything? In my opinion, No.
Do I own more than one? Yup. I carry one as a primary that I think most advantageous of my options; sometimes the decision is tight, Glock 34 or 35.
Back up? Here we go. If you carry a back-up when going to a big city but not a quick trip to the store that is less gun for less anticipated threat.

 

[John_R]

“Going into a big city…” If you don’t live in Jax or aren’t familiar with which parts are bad, it’s fine to prep for the worst. The northwest quadrant is drug/gangland, the rest is mostly petty crime and gangs just spilling over occasionally.

Bears? They carry the same EDC every day.

 

[Kleanbore]

If you carry a back-up when going to a big city but not a quick trip to the store that is less gun for less anticipated threat.

The potential threat should not differ. The likelihood of occurrence may vary, but once the need presents itself, the weapon needed would not be affected.

 

[CDW4ME]

The potential threat should not differ. The likelihood of occurrence may vary, but once the need presents itself, the weapon needed would not be affected.

We are of like mind.