"Men have emptied entire clips at them and hit nothing but air"

[Telperion]

... and doors, and windows, and washing machines.

Idaho Cities to Pay to Fix Bullet Holes

Wed May 4, 9:40 PM ET

After officers fired 22 shots at a fleeing man without hitting him, Boise and Garden City police departments say they'll pay nearly $7,000 to repair bullet holes in homes that were hit during the wild confrontation.

According to insurance claims filed with both departments by residents, shots fired by four officers in pursuit of 39-year-old Harlan Hale hit doors, windows, window moldings, garage doors, an all-terrain-vehicle and a clothes dryer. No one was injured in the March 9 chase.

Garden City is a town of about 11,000 residents surrounded by the city of Boise.

The shots came as police tried to apprehend Hale, who had been the target of a manhunt after he was accused of shooting at two Boise police officers during a traffic stop on Feb. 28.

He was arrested March 9 less than a mile from the neighborhood. After a short car chase, Hale drove through a back yard and over a shed before crashing his car into an irrigation canal.

 

[jobu07]

And so the question is answered of where all those missed shots go

 

[MLH]

Looks like they need to spend another $7000

And teach those fine officers how to shoot!

 

[Justin]

<Neo>
Whoa.
</Neo>

 

[1911JMB]

I have a similar story. Some time ago, 2 armed robbers and one with a bb gun tried to knock over a crowded eyeglass store in a city near detroit. The guard pulled out his gun and started firing at the suspects from less than 10 feet away. The suspects immediatly gave up and hit the deck. The guard emptied 3 clinton mags at the suspects, and hit nothing but the wall and the floor. That guard was later fired.

 

[akviper]

What else is a at play here. Are the officers forced to use handguns at rifle ranges? Is it a training or equipment issue? Could one properly trained officer with an AR solve the problem with one or two shots? What is the rest of the story?

 

[VARifleman]

Good thing those officers didn't hit someone else...if someone was on the street and those shots were threatening the life of an innocent bystander, would said bystander be authorized deadly force against the officers if they continued firing? Seems reasonable to me.

 

[ID_shooting]

A week or so prior, the suspect had fired on a partol officer who pulled him and few passengers over. All the passengers were arrested that morning but they had to hunt this guy down.

 

[mnrivrat]

A week or so prior, the suspect had fired on a partol officer who pulled him and few passengers over. All the passengers were arrested that morning but they had to hunt this guy down.

Hummm ? What happened a week or so earlier does not justify shooting on that day - should be more to this story . Or are you saying that they fired out of vengance for the prior incident ?

 

[geekWithA.45]

Well, I guess paying $7k every so often is cheaper than sending the whole force to a good gun school.....

 

[Too Many Choices!?]

mnrivrat

Are you saying that officers don't pursue with more, lets say,"vigor", a suspect that has shot at or killed a fellow officer ? Yeah right! They wanted this guy ,and bad (as the round count should show) !

PS It seem like a whole side of the story is missing. How many shots did the b/g let loose at the officers on THIS occassion?

 

[HighVelocity]

So the only casualty was the Snuggle dryer sheet bear.

 

[Gunwalker.44]

Just think if theÿ'd have been using wheelguns instead of "wundernines"
they would have been forced to reload.....

 

[saltydog]

I'm glad there were no sheeple "accidently" shot!

 

[Boats]

Any bets on Glocks being the weapons?

 

[mnrivrat]

mnrivrat

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Are you saying that officers don't pursue with more, lets say,"vigor", a suspect that has shot at or killed a fellow officer ? Yeah right! They wanted this guy ,and bad (as the round count should show) !

What I'm saying is that it is doubtfull they would fire 22 shots at a suspect unless they were threaten'd on that occasion . Not because the suspect fired on an officer prior. With vigor ? yes Without immediate danger ? I doubt it. As I said, there should be more to this story.

There is implication here that they fired on "a fleeing man" because he had fired shots at an officer 9 days prior. If that's in fact true , the "vigor" of the pursuit would be illegal. I won't jump on that bandwagon without more of the story.

 

[cls12vg30]

"Men have emptied entire clips at them and hit nothing but air"

Aargh! What movie is this from? It's driving me CRAZY!

 

[Checkman]

The day that they caught up to Harlan Hale he attempted to run officers over with his car before fleeing on foot.They had surrounded a house that he was hiding in and they were attempting to take him without violence. Hale was the one who escalated it. What the article leaves out is that he also fired on the officers that day and when they apprehended him he was hiding in some bushes with the intent to ambush those officers. He had made repeated statements in the past that he wanted to kill cops and he was wanted out of Twin Falls,Idaho (aproximately 130 miles east of Boise/Garden City) for armed robbery.

Incidentally Boise officers carry the Glock 21 and Garden City (which is almost entirely surrounded by Boise City) carries 40 calibers. Yes there was much more to this story.

 

[Edmond]

Maybe he just raised his hand up and stopped all the bullets just before impact?

 

[VARifleman]

Aargh! What movie is this from? It's driving me CRAZY!

This previous post should clue you in:

<Neo>
Whoa.
</Neo>

 

[Tory]

Two words

"What I'm saying is that it is doubtfull [sic] they would fire 22 shots at a suspect unless they were threaten'd [sic] on that occasion ."

Amadou Diallo

For those with short memories, he's the citizen gunned down by several NYC cops, most of whom could not even see him and fired because others cops opened fire, all because he held a wallet to show them ID.

 

[pythonguy]

Its from the one, the only, the first: "Matrix" movie which has what I feel is the greatest shooting scene to date in the "Lobby shootout" with Neo and Trinity.

 

[Yanus]

As the comedian, Ron White would say

"Give those guys a roll of quarters and drop'em off at the mall.......".

They need the practice on some of those shooting video games.

Yanus

 

[Checkman]

Once again Hale fired on the officers and he was armed when they arrested him. He also attempted to run down uniformed officers with his car. Then of course there was the fact that he had shot at an officer the week before during a traffic stop and that he was wanted for armed robbery in another city. He had a long criminal history.

 

[pythonguy]

The Diallo shooting was a terrible event which proves that even trained professionals can make a series of mistakes that lead to a tragic conclusion. This mistake lead to the death of an innocent man holding a wallet wanting to show ID, how sad.