MI House committee considers purchase permit repeal IN 2 WEEKS!!!

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I got a reply from Sen. Jones. Basically, like a true politician, he answered without answering. He reiterated the fact that he supported the bill when the Senate voted on it, but skipped over answering when I directly asked if be would author or support a measure to over ride the Governors decision.

Now, with all the wild and rampant speculation over the possibility of a future gun-ban, we should be pressuring our state and federal leaders even more about where we stand on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
 
No, the title is old. House passed the bill, Senate passed the bill, Governor vetoed the bill, we're now waiting to see if the senate super majority over rides the veto. We should find something today.
 
Good luck guys. If you contact your reps remind them that the current system doesn't work. Look at Detroit.
 
Hope you guys win
I have had a MI CPL (CCW) since they came out & then some.
It allows me to just walk in to a gun shop & purchase ( with FBI check) a handgun & be on my way in about 15 minutes----I do have to mail the paper work to my local Police station
 
Your gun shop sends to MSP
You only have to send a copy ( gun shop gives you) to your local Police station---you can hand deliver if you got nothing to do----:D
 
I have heard nothing--quiet
I may be wrong but I don't think the MI congress has the guts to overide the Governor---time will tell
 
Who at the MSP is advising snyder? Could we email them a piece of our mind. Ive had it with them.
 
USAF_Vet said:
Thanks Howard, that's what I needed to know.


Any word on how HB 5225 went? Haven't read any updates.
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Passed in the House by a 2:1 margin, approved unanimously by the Senate Judiciary Committee. However, the Senate leaders are giving in to a Gov. Snyder request to hold off on a vote, even though it appears that it will pass with a supermajority (enough to override Snyder's veto). MSP wants to maintain easy access to all pistol owner records, and Snyder, cozy with Obama, is not a real supporter of Second Amendment rights to begin with. There are only a few sessions left in this legislative year, and we need to bring MASSIVE pressure on these legislators to get this on the agenda for a vote while there is still time - or we have to start all over again next year.

Contact Sen. Richardville (Senate Majority Leader) and Gov. Snyder ASAP, and urge them to get this on the agenda WITHOUT THE MSP AMENDMENTS - and copy the senator from your district.

I sent the following email to Sen. Richardville today:

Senator Richardville,

I realize that I am not from your district, which is why this is copied to my senator as well.

It is my understanding, based on reports that have appeared on Mlive and other media outlets, that a vote on HB 5225 and its companion bills has been delayed at the request of the governor.

What I do not understand is, why?

Governor Snyder made it clear during his campaign that he was running a self-funded campaign for one reason: so that he would have free rein to pursue his own agenda, free from the constraints of the party leadership in both houses. On a number of occasions, he has demonstrated just what this means, his actions following his failed efforts to procure enough legislative support for the new bridge being the biggest example. Additionally, his efforts to cozy up to the President make several of his decisions and policies he has pursued highly suspect. He enjoys his close relationship with the President, and wants to insure that nothing interferes with that relationship.

But while he desires to be free from the oversight of party leadership, he still feels right at home whipping Republicans into line to back his personal agenda.

It is time for the Governor to learn a hard political lesson. It is time for him to understand that, if he desires continued cooperation from Senate and House Republicans, he needs to reciprocate that cooperation.

I can think of no better pieces of legislation with which to drive home this lesson than HB 5225 and its companion bills.

This package of bills came out of the House with tremendous support, passing by a 2 to one margin.

It came out of the Senate Judiciary Committee with unanimous support.

There is every indicator that it will pass in the Senate with enough votes to override a Governor's veto.

It is time for the Governor to learn a very important political lesson: there can be no cooperation without reciprocation. He campaigned in a manner that would free him of party constraint; fine, then he must learn that obtaining that cooperation comes with a price: reciprocation.

We only have a few sessions left in this legislative year. This legislation needs to be passed before the end of this year. It is time to stop playing politics with this package of bills. The firearms community has proven itself to be worthy of public trust. Firearms ownership and CPL applications are at all-time highs, yet violent crime continues to trend down to levels not seen in years. We have proven ourselves.

Stop playing politics with our rights (Article 1 Section 6, Constitution of the State of Michigan) and pass this legislation.

Sincerely,
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For what it's worth, I received this today (Thur. Oct. 25, 2012).

Thank you for your recent correspondence sent to Governor Snyder's office. I have been assigned your correspondence and am responding on behalf of Governor Snyder.

If you are interested in advocating for this legislation, I suggest you contact your state legislators and bring your concerns to their attention. The bill you referred to is still going through the legislative process. It has passed the Michigan House of Representatives but must still pass the State Senate in identical form before it reaches Governor Snyder's desk. Hoping to be of some assistance, you can use the links below to locate the contact information for your legislators.

http://www.senate.michigan.gov/fysenator/fysenator.htm
http://house.michigan.gov/mhrpublic/

Thank you, again, for your recent correspondence. If this bill reaches Governor Snyder's desk, be assured that he will have your thoughts close at hand when making a decision. Remember that you can track the status of this bill at http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?2011-HB-5225. Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact this office.


Laura Stoken
Constituent Services Specialist
Executive Office of the Governor, Rick Snyder
O: 517-335-7858
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Just a form letter. Everyone who has written the Governor about this has gotten an identical one.
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For sure. But if a bill does hit the Governor's desk something has to give. At this point I wonder if the game plan is to stall until after the election. :uhoh:
 
the gov snyder,has refused to sign hb 5225, Ooo

After the election,maybe old fuff has somthing,the state police have a steak in this,theyll loose jobs in register dept,amd state checks may allow some police with domestic violence covictions pre 2001 ,and draft dodgers who were pardoned,may be considered prohibited persons,because pre 2001 felons with non specifide felony convictions could posses guns under michigan law.
 
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Kaeto said:
Actually the dates you give are after the election since it's Nov 6.
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Sorry -- my misunderstanding! You are correct. the 10/17 session was the last one for this month; in fact, it was the ONLY session for October, and there were only 6 sessions the entire month of September. This is done (though I disagree with the reasoning) so that legislators have an opportunity to focus on their campaigns before the elections. I disagree because anyone running against an incumbent has to find a way to both continue working AND run a campaign at the same time. The advantage goes to the incumbent.
 
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After the election,maybe old fuff has somthing,the state police have a steak in this,theyll loose jobs in register dept,amd state checks may allow some police with domestic violence covictions pre 2001 ,and draft dodgers who were pardoned,may be considered prohibited persons,because pre 2001 felons with non specifide felony convictions could posses guns under michigan law.
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Actually, by not having to worry about time-consuming background checks (NICS would take care of this) and maintaining a pistol owner registry, all those officers currently assigned to those duties can concentrate instead on REAL police work!
 
There is no reason that letter writers can't point out they've noticed that action on this bill was put off until after the election, and should it go down in flames you will still remember when future elections come along. A few letters won't concern them. A continuing flood will. :evil:
 
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