micro reddots -- any experience with deltapoint on rifle?

[mrming]

I'm mucking about with my AR's. Already have a PA MRDS mounted on it but it is a tube style, non-reflex sight.

Not much point in it for me. I can aim with both eyes open fine on most scopes so if the optic is head-position sensitive not much advantage over a scope for me.

So, anyone have a deltapoint on a rifle? How do you like it? Trying to avoid the weight/size of an eotech. Not a big fan of tritium powered reticles and the rmr is just too pricey. Have I missed any others?

 

[Inebriated]

Tube-style dots like the Aimpoint, PA micro, etc. are closed, for the most part, to help keep the emitter protected and the optic from fogging. If you shoot in the rain often, you may have problems with an exposed emitter optic like the Deltapoint. Water gets on the emitter or the glass, and distorts the projected dot until you wipe it off. If that doesn't bother you, and you're going to be in a mostly dry place, rock on. The only real downside is that some have the battery in the bottom, and require dismounting to change the battery. I don't know if the Deltapoint is that way.

taliv, IIRC, has an RMR on an AR and I'm sure could answer any questions you have.

 

[MachIVshooter]

Have I missed any others?

The Burris Fastfire. I have the Fastfire III, like it a great deal. the III has hi, medium, low and automatic brightness settings. It also comes with a see-though cover that mitigates the moisture issue Inebriated pointed out. These are at a lower price point than the Leupold, around $230. Good sights.

 

[OpticsPlanet]

I would second the vote for the FastFire III. For the price-point it's just about as good an optic as you can get, especially if you're looking for something more lightweight.



Michael C.

 

[OpticsPlanet]

I've used a FastFire II for a few years, in the AR-F3 mount, no complaints. The FastFire III addressed my only complaint with the II - the II had auto-adjust brightness only, while the III has auto adjust and three presets.

http://www.opticsplanet.com/burris-ar-f3-flatop-fastfire-sight.html

The DeltaPoint Pro is a very nice optic, but being a cheap bastard, I went with the Burris.

Mark H.

 

[taliv]

sorry i missed this thread before

here's where i discussed mine www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=785746

 

[strambo]

I haven't used the small reflex sights yet. I have used plenty of tube style RDS, mainly the Army issue M68 CCO and Aimpoint H1.

I don't understand your 2nd sentence though.

Not much point in it for me. I can aim with both eyes open fine on most scopes so if the optic is head-position sensitive not much advantage over a scope for me.

Tube RDS are not at all head position sensitive. If you can see the dot, squeeze the trigger. The smaller "reflex" sights typically have a smaller window than the tube sights so if your head is too far out of position to pick up the dot in a 30mm Aimpoint or a 20mm AP micro...it won't be in position to pick up the dot in a 21x15mm Fastfire.

I can see going EOtech, but again if it is less head position sensitive it would be due to the size of the objective not the way it is made...unless I'm missing something?

 

[Inebriated]

^truth. Ray Charles could find the dot in a 30mm Aimpoint.

 

[wally]

I would second the vote for the FastFire III. For the price-point it's just about as good an optic as you can get, especially if you're looking for something more lightweight.

I'll share my experience and say that any reflex sight in that size range that costs less than the FastFire is garbage -- I've tried and returned about all of them as far as I know. The Trijicon RMR dual illuminated is my favorite, but I can pretty much get two Fastfires for less than an RMR, so I have more FastFires than RMRs.


The original Optima2000/Jpoint (usually still a bit more $ than the FastFire) is still the smallest and lightest that I know of, and mine have held up very well (got the first one ~2005) but the zero adjustment is a PITA and I don't like removing it from the mount to change the battery, fortunately battery life is quite good on these.


I'd agree with Inebriated, and recommend a tube type for a rifle, although the small Primary Arms type (Bushnell TRS-25, SIG, Barska, etc. all make similar models) also work very well on .22lr pistols, a guy at our club even had one (PA) on a Saiga 12ga and it seemed to hold up well.

For serious use, buy the best you can afford (why I have some RMR on my carry guns) but for fun shooting its nice to know there are some good options out there that cost about the same as a decent set of BUIS for when you get to the point your eyes and iron sights no longer get along. I prefer buying guns and ammo to buying optics.

 

[cdb1]

I got tired of waiting on the DeltaPoint Pro to come out so I purchased a Vortex Razor red dot. The DeltaPoint(not the Pro) must be removed from the rifle to change the battery, which was a deal killer for me. The FastFire is on my son's AR and we are pleased with it. The micro red dots we have are ancillary to scopes that are on the rifles. If a red dot was the primary sight on my rifle I would have a larger tube style.