MilSurp 22LR Training Rifles

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What's considered best of the breed? best sights? best trigger? which one is a diamond in the rough? most accessible? cheapest?

winter is on its way and i could use a bit of a project. looking for something that is not so rare it would be criminal to refinish the stock or something. say $3-400 tops. Country of origin is irrelevant, but i want a nice rifle, even if i have to work to find it. any recommendations?
 
I had a wz 48 for a few years. Polish single-shot trainer done up to look like a Mosin. Very heavy, accurate, and a lot of fun. Weirds people out at the range when they think you're showing up with the real boomstick.

They're uncommon, I have seen them in all sorts of conditions, but usually in your price range.
 
The CZ-452 trainer. I don't know if it qualifies, but you don't need to do anything to it to have a great training rifle.
 
Kimber 82.....You can still get them NIB in your price range. CMP has them they label as "rusty". Everyone says the red isn't rust, but rather some dried preservative.
 
Kimber 82.....You can still get them NIB in your price range. CMP has them they label as "rusty". Everyone says the red isn't rust, but rather some dried preservative.
Educate me here please. I just got on the CMP website and only found the Savage or the Anschutz in .22 cal. I'd like to have one of the Kimber 82's.
 
Maybe CMP is out of Kimbers. With something like 20k of them made, you should have no trouble finding one.
 
AFAIK the rusty Kimbers are gone. I got one for $400 a few years ago. Some fine rust on one small section. Worst thing was a majority of the stocks had gouges in it from idiots opening the plastic with box knives and slashing the stock. Mine was pristine. It will shoot one ragged hole if I do my part. It's very very accurate and a lovely bench 22
 
I have an old bring-back Mauser training rifle. .22 single shot. Looks just like a Model 98; slightly smaller. Very, very accurate, even with the military sights.

The trigger isn't the world's best, but it's quite acceptable for fun shooting.

No idea what these sell for in the collector's market.
 
Folks like the Mauser MAS45's. Many would consider it a sin to refurbish one of these. The triggers are heavy but crisp. I doubt you'd find one for $300; $400 probably.
 
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Love my French MAS 45 .22 training rifle. When I got it it was never fired. Why would it have been? I even have a spare mag for it...
 

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I purchased military trainer rifles from the CMP for use in competition. Prices for the M52 D’s and Rem 40X’s are way out of your price range. I estimate that an all correct rifle will be $800-$1200. The best of the “affordable bunch” are the Kimber M82G’s and the H&R M12’s. I am of the opinion the H&R M12 is the better built and better design, being a product improved M52D.
I shot these groups in competition, prone, with sling, at 50 yards with my M12.

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The Kimber is an excellent competition grade 22 right out of the box.
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I believe the diamond in the rough is the Stevens M416. This is a WW2 era rifle and was an excellent medium priced 22 LR. It was not a cheap or cheaply made rifle: in 1939 the cost was $28 but adjusted for inflation, that is $455.00. It takes work to find rear sights as the front and rear sights were removed from the CMP rifles. A Lyman front sight works perfectly with the period rear.

Based on limited shooting, I believe a good Stevens M416 will hold the ten ring and maybe the X ring. These early rimfires are more difficult to shoot against modern competition rimfires as there is no adjustable handstop, and, similar to the Kimbers and M12's, the buttplate is not adjustable for length and the cheekpiece is fixed. But, as with the other rifles, it met the small bore prone rules of the day. The Army believed in aimed fire, supported competition sports only because they believed these events would train potential draftees to shoot accurately in combat, and the Army wrote the NRA competition rules so that the rifles that were not that much different in ergonomics to M1903's and M1 Garands. Small bore competition rules stayed Army retrogressive until the late to middle 60's when the Army disavowed the concept of accurate long range aimed fire and stopped financial support for the National Matches.

Stevens M416
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