Mini-14 Accuracy

[Pilgrim]

I kept mine because it is politically correct in the PDRK.

Pilgrim

 

[johnsonrlp]

The new ones are claimed to shoot 2" at 100 yards. Send me some money to buy one and I'll check it out for you

 

[ArmedBear]

The Mini-14 is a helluva fun plinker. It carries nice, shoulders quickly, it's not heavy, and it takes up very little space for a centerfire semiauto.

It's not a match rifle, though it can be used as the foundation of one if you want to spend the money.

It's neither as accurate as a good AR, nor is it as bad as people say.

I might try that stabilizer thingie. Do you just bolt it onto the barrel, or are other modifications necessary?

 

[benEzra]

Mine runs 5.5" at 100 yards for a 10-shot group. Is rock-solid reliable, though.

Mini-14 Ranch Rifle w/Butler Creek folder and custom buttplate

With factory wooden stock.

Butler Creek stock folded for storage, with magazine.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

benEzra, you don't happen to own a black van with a big red stripe down the side do you?

 

[.45Guy]

As a matter of fact, I found a film of him in action.... http://www.retrojunk.com/details_theme/19/

 

[Mannlicher]

shermacman

Wait till you see what happens to your nice, tight groups as the stock barrel warms up... By the time you upgrade and replace everything that needs upgrading and replacing, you can buy a decent AR.

yes, but not everyone WANTS a decent AR. Frankly, I see a lot of guys spending the farm on making their AR more 'tactical'. A few bucks spent on a Mini-14 pales in comparison.

I have several examples of both platforms. I like them both, and shoot both a lot. The Mini is rock solid reliable, and accurate enough (mine holds 2 inch groups at 100 yards, hot or cold). The big downside of the Mini-14 has always been availibility of decent mags at a decent price, and spare parts.

 

[Dr.Rob]

3 inches is about the best I ever got with iron sights... 2 with a scope on an older pre-ranch model mini.

 

[BIERNUTS]

I kept mine because it is politically correct in the PDRK.

Pilgrim
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I still have mine from PDRK and I'm in CDA, ID now. I was thinking of selling but I don't think there's much of a market for them up here.

 

[toivo]

I kept mine because it is politically correct in the PDRK.

Are the Saigas with the sporter stock legal in Cali?

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976771522.htm

You can find them even cheaper than this if you look around.

 

[weregunner]

Guys,Guys.This is a"flog the dead horse" issue.Weekly we see this posted.People who have them and like them rejoice.Those who don't can shoot something else.Researching past threads or finding a media source that has accuracy info would end this.Maybe the media has no data, but I see articles in the SWAT magazine and semi auto magazines annually.The velocities and accuracy tables with certain types of ammo are posted.There are online sites with articles by these same magazines.My Ruger mini 14 does want I want it to do,so I'm happy,happy,happy!Puhlease end it?Sheesh! :banghead:

 

[Number 6]

Are the Saigas with the sporter stock legal in Cali?

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976771522.htm

You can find them even cheaper than this if you look around.

No, Saigas are listed as Assault Weapons in any configuration.

 

[dmckean44]

No, Saigas are listed as Assault Weapons in any configuration.

Not true. They're only illegal if imported by Kalashnikov USA. Not EAA or RAA.

 

[Number 6]

Not true. They're only illegal if imported by Kalashnikov USA. Not EAA or RAA.

Do you have a DOJ letter or memo to back that up? Or do you know of anyone who has actually done it? I do not doubt that EAA or RAA Saigas could be legal, but more substantial evidence is needed rather than someone's opinion from the internet.

 

[slicknickns]

I've always pictured the rilfe in the bed of an old beat up pickup track that some farmer uses, or on the shoulder slinged on some farmers back. It's perfect for protecting against coyotes. Perfect.

It's not a competition rifle. Good home defense, good for cops, good for the piece of **** prison guards, good for civilians, good for everyone!

 

[lee n. field]

I don't expect it to be a sniper rifle, but is something wrong with these things?

A pessimized design?

Go to the Perfectunion Mini-14/30 forum. There's a subforum dedicated to accurizing the Mini.

The cheapest mods that seem to help (so they say) are to glass bed the stock and add a muzzle break.

am soon to experience the polymer 30's but can't comment on their reliability.

FWIW, I personally have had no (zero, nada) trouble with the Promag 20 round polymer magazines.



Sometimes things just work right. (No, I haven't duplicated that since.)

The big downside of the Mini-14 has always been availibility of decent mags at a decent price, and spare parts.

Yup-oo. Firing pin is Ruger only, ship to them for them to fit (though I am aware that Brownell's carries an aftermarket pin that needs final fitting.)

 

[rangerruck]

ruger redid all their specs, computers, pours, etc., on this rifle just this past year. So it will def be better accuracy. even then , the best you can expect at 100 yds is proly 3 moa. On a good day.

 

[Win70]

( HAD ) two of them.

 

[ndh87]

Tighten the everything on the gun, and that will reduce your groupings by 50%

Dont forget to retighten everything after each mag. i lost the rear sight on my mini 14 ranch because the screw came loose and fell out in tall grass while i was shooting. the one i have is also very tempermental, i had a scope on it (the crosshairs snapped because of the gun's excessive recoil) but on a good day i could cut a 12 penny nail in half from 50 yards(this is no exageration, i have witnesses) but on a bad day, i couldnt hit a fence post from the same 50 yards. sometimes this would vary from mag to mag, not justday to day...very tempermental gun...

 

[TexasRifleman]

benEzra, you don't happen to own a black van with a big red stripe down the side do you?

I pity da fool dat owns more than 1 Mini-14

 

[nitesite]

I had a very very nice 187-series ranch rifle until quite recently. It was 100% reliable the entire time I owned it. I accepted that (at 100 yards) I may only be able to get minute-of-grapefruit accuracy with a 1.5-4.5 scope on it. It was light, quick handling and FUN! Great as a plinker, to be sure.

It also served as my home-defense rifle for several years because I placed that much trust in it at close ranges. (The scope was a bit of an issue ~ keep it on? or take it off?)



But I sold it after buying a stainless barrelled Bushmaster AR. I shot the M16 for years in the Army and still like the layout of the "controls" much better. I like dissassembly and reassembly on the AR much better. I like dropping and changing magazines much better. I like cleaning from the breech better. I like not having horribly dented cases. Having them drop six feet away (instead of 30') is much better (I'm reloading again, finally).

And I like shooting 2" groups with iron sights @ 100 yards using LC or AE or Q3131 from a rest.

But I sure do miss the years of fun & reliability I had with that Mini-14. The guy who bought it from me is really enjoying it.

I still have a like new Ruger factory 30-rd magazine, just in case I might someday get another (tho' it is rather unlikely...)

 

[GunnySkox]

I look at the Mini as kind of a modern day M1 carbine.

Woah! That actually really brought my Mini into perspective for me. All of the sudden, I like my lil' Mini a lot more.

Thanks, jagdpanzer.

~GnSx

 

[benEzra]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartholomew Roberts

benEzra, you don't happen to own a black van with a big red stripe down the side do you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasSIGman

I pity da fool dat owns more than 1 Mini-14

I love it when a plan comes together...

 

[Hawkseye]

I have developed a bolt on device called a Gas Block Thermal Stabilizer which I have tested with Mini-14 rifles that shot 4 to 7" groups at 100 yards. I was never satisfied with the Mini-14 because I could never count on 100 yard accruacy being adequate. With both Mini's, I have been able to shoot sub moa groups, even some smaller-than-a-dime groups with my own "special" handloads. The device is designed to extract the heat away from the gas block and thus minimize the distortion from heat expansion with repeated firing, as well as providing a harmonics tuner that enables you to finely tune your rifle. Check out www.aimstraight.net for more information. I have really gained a lot of confidence in my Mini-14's with this thing and other testamonials from others who have tried it.

Well, it looks like a lot of others spam out here too, if you call fixing an old problem with a well known rifle spam. I have refined my 7 moa Mini-14 to a near clover leaf shooter, and it seems like there are a lot of other guys who would like to do that as well. I've been pretty busy machining them out, and developing anodizing and custom finishes for the product along with other improvements. Actually, my claims were conservative to the real potential of what I have been able to achieve with the GBTS. So are you saying that you would deprive others of the knowledge of such a product, when that is the very focal point of the discussion forum?? That premise is just a little confusing, but there you have it. www.aimstraight.net

 

[Bigfoot]

By Hawkseye

I have developed a bolt on device called a Gas Block Thermal Stabilizer which I have tested with Mini-14 rifles that shot 4 to 7" groups at 100 yards. I was never satisfied with the Mini-14 because I could never count on 100 yard accruacy being adequate. With both Mini's, I have been able to shoot sub moa groups, even some smaller-than-a-dime groups with my own "special" handloads. The device is designed to extract the heat away from the gas block and thus minimize the distortion from heat expansion with repeated firing, as well as providing a harmonics tuner that enables you to finely tune your rifle. Check out www.aimstraight.net for more information. I have really gained a lot of confidence in my Mini-14's with this thing and other testamonials from others who have tried it.

Hi Hawkseye, how ya doin? You had to stop making these claims about your product at The Perfect Union Mini-14 section huh? Yeah that was pretty brutal.



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