Personally I could live with simply an 870 Remington 12 ga. This can handle anything from a rabbit to a bear. And be effective for personal protection. Keep in mind that the only situation I could ever see myself with a minimum collection situation would be if I had to bug out. That would be the gun I would take with as much ammo as I could carry.
Minimalist Gun Collection
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Where I live a 100 yard sight line is rare unless you are standing in the road, which is tactically retarded. I'm a big fan of shared calibers, so for me:
10 22 (22LR)
Walther P22 (22LR)
Glock 9mm
Sub2000 9mm glock mag
12 gauge shotty
Yeah, think I'll keep the Mosins too.
10 22 (22LR)
Walther P22 (22LR)
Glock 9mm
Sub2000 9mm glock mag
12 gauge shotty
Yeah, think I'll keep the Mosins too.
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Have you done this? What was your best group? How much practice did it take to achieve that group? What reduced loads have you found that work best? Recipes for same would be appreciated. How different is the POA/POI from the regular loads?
Thanks!
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Nothing beats a shotgun for versatility, provided one has an array of different loads for it. (various birdshot loads, various buckshot loads and various slugs)
At 10+ pounds per 100 rds, things get heavy fast, so I'm curious how much of what type of ammo would you carry?
pockets
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A true 'Minimalist Gun Collection' would be an empty gun rack....perhaps painted gloss white to match the wall.
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I am roughly your size, and I know that guns like that seem like they would be brutal. But I have shot a 2.5" smith and wesson 500 revolver with no porting. It was surprisingly managable.
These guns might not be the most fun, but they would cover 90% of the situations that can occur in N. America
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I could probably make do with a 12 ga / 223 combo gun from savage with barrel inserts for 20 ga and 410 if desired, a good quality 22 rifle such as a Ruger 10/22 and a Ruger Blackhawk in 357 with the convertible 9mm cylinder. That way I could stock the minimum number of necessary calibers, yet retain the ability to shoot others should the need arise.
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I'm thinking a 155mm crew-served field piece that shoots minute of acre at 15 miles.
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Rifles:
A Rimfire like the Ruger 77/22 Mk II all weather target in .22 WMR
A lever or EBR like the Winchester 30-30
and a do it all 30-06 or .308 of your preference mine is a Weatherby 30-06
Shotgun:
12 or 20 guage your pic I like the SxS Rugers in 20g
Pistol:
.22lr Rimfire for training Like the Ruger Mk's or Browning Buckmarks
Centerfire Revolver Pick your S&W or Colt
Centerfire Semi-Auto Like the FNP-9, 1911, or Glock
I could do just about anything I want with these (7) tools. Just glad I dont!
A Rimfire like the Ruger 77/22 Mk II all weather target in .22 WMR
A lever or EBR like the Winchester 30-30
and a do it all 30-06 or .308 of your preference mine is a Weatherby 30-06
Shotgun:
12 or 20 guage your pic I like the SxS Rugers in 20g
Pistol:
.22lr Rimfire for training Like the Ruger Mk's or Browning Buckmarks
Centerfire Revolver Pick your S&W or Colt
Centerfire Semi-Auto Like the FNP-9, 1911, or Glock
I could do just about anything I want with these (7) tools. Just glad I dont!
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I have a .454 Ruger Alaskan and it's a blast to shoot as long as hou don't get stupid about what ammo you shoot. The full house/full pressure aren't needed for most puposes and the various .45 colt loadings and Winchesters attenuated 250gr load @ about 1300 fps work excellent without being obnoxious.
Sorry, this was a response to the gent who doesn't want to fire a .454 and somehow the his quote is missing.
Sorry, this was a response to the gent who doesn't want to fire a .454 and somehow the his quote is missing.
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Smith357
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No I own more than one rifle, but my M70 is the one set aside for... whatever...
My best groupings at 800 were under 6 inches but those were just luck, my average from a concrete bench is around 10-12 inches from a .30-06 M70 sporter with 165 grain Vmax bullets.
I started in the US Marine Corps some 30 years ago and I'm still trying to get it.
I use 13 grains of Red Dot under a 150 grain gas checked cast bullet. I've also tried BP loads and 90 grain Carbine bullets.
I would have to check my log book for the actual numbers but I keep the rifle set with a 250 yard point blank range, I think I turn the scope down to 4 power and use the 2nd or 3rd mil-dot for 100 yards with my reduced loads. It's written on the inside of the scope cap too.
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That's useful information, thanks!
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.308 Bolt Rifle (Winchester 70)
.357 Magnum Revolver (S&W 686)
.22 Rifle (Custom Single Shot)
12 ga. Pump Shotgun (Beneli Supernova)
That is all you "need".
.357 Magnum Revolver (S&W 686)
.22 Rifle (Custom Single Shot)
12 ga. Pump Shotgun (Beneli Supernova)
That is all you "need".
GlockFan
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To me minimalist is more like 5 guns....
a .22 rifle
a .22 handgun
a centerfire rifle
a 12 gauge shotgun with swappable barrels for defense and hunting
a centerfire handgun like a glock 19 or smith/ruger 357 magnum
a .22 rifle
a .22 handgun
a centerfire rifle
a 12 gauge shotgun with swappable barrels for defense and hunting
a centerfire handgun like a glock 19 or smith/ruger 357 magnum
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Fixed it for you.
wickedsprint
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If we use the word "need" we should not be discussing a quantity greater than "1".
Most of the people here are confusing "need" with "want".
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Totally and completely disagree.
Let's substitute the word "tool" for "gun."
"How many tools do I need?"
"You just need one; a claw hammer. Anything you need to fix can be done with that."
"But how would I turn screws, tighten nuts or cut wood with just a hammer?"
"Look, I'm not going to help you pick a hammer if you refuse to pay attention....."
huntsman
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I'd need a sledge also.
wickedsprint
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That argument almost works...except machines have gotten more complicated (requiring more elaborate tools). Dinner and intruders have not changed much.
This is a fun topic.
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Oh, ok.
Then your obvious choice is a Ruger 10-22. It can handle everything from field mice to mountain goat to grizzly (shot placement!) to handling groups of armed marauders. Hmmm, can't carry it concealed, tho.....
Or is it a shotgun? loaded with the perfect shell for each application, of course.......except you can't conceal it. Snap! Wait, no problem, get the tax stamp for a super short shotgun! Oh, wait, now it's not a good duck or goose gun....
Actually, my tool analogy was perfect. Why? Because a gun, in truth, is also a tool. Like they said in Shop class, and it still holds true: "use the right tool for the job."
How many guns you "need" depends on how many different jobs you want to do.
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wickedsprint
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It actually depends on how many jobs you "need" to do
Contrary to popular belief, we don't need to CCW...we choose to.
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My minimalist list of guns/calibers would include: (1) Something for home defense, probably a 38spl revolver or 9mm/40 s&w pistol. (2) 22 rifle of your choice. (3) Shotgun of your choice.
If you are a hunter, it is a longer list: HD firearm, 22 rifle, shotgun, 270 > 30-06 caliber rifle. You could drop the HD firearm entirely and use one of the others for that purpose.
I grew up in a minimalist hunting family and you don't "need" 15 guns to provide a sufficient variety to handle most chores quite effectively.
If you are a hunter, it is a longer list: HD firearm, 22 rifle, shotgun, 270 > 30-06 caliber rifle. You could drop the HD firearm entirely and use one of the others for that purpose.
I grew up in a minimalist hunting family and you don't "need" 15 guns to provide a sufficient variety to handle most chores quite effectively.
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Whose belief? Obamas? Hillary? Chuck U. Schumer?
Yeah, I disagree with them, too.
You've put yourself on a very slippery slope. Who, exactly, gets to define "need?"
"I need a gun to hunt," you say.
"You don't 'need' to hunt, go to the grocery store instead," they reply.
"I need a gun for home defense," you cry.
"No, you don't, buy good locks, an alarm system and call 911," they smugly respond.
"But I like to shoot for recreation," you whine.
"Take up golf. See? You really don't 'need' any guns, do you!"
If YOU just have one job you need a gun to handle, that's fine, but don't apply your self-restrictive "needs" to others.
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