BLACKHAWKNJ
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Bought my 6" stainless-used-in 1976, a set of Bullseye or Trapper springs lightened the trigger pull while maintaining 100% reliability. And very accurate.
Missing the Security-Six?
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YES! When S&W made the 686, they told designers and their Quality Control that they wanted a .357 that would be durable, smooth, and as accurate as a Colt Python. Actually it's more durable. The Python has a weakness. It's hand/pawl is too small at the top tip. As it wears, the gun slips out of time and requires work. The frame itself is as strong as a bull, but that one tiny flaw is a pain, and it's expensive to fit. Some people hard chrome the hand to keep it from wearing. The 686 action is superb. I have a 686-no dash and a 686-6. Both have amazing actions and they are the finest .357 ever designed in my book.
Rugers throw heavier bullets just fine and aren't so great with 110- and 125-grain. But 686s are just super with all bullets. I think Ruger figured lighter bullets would be used by law enforcement and homeowners, and heavier bullets by hunters, so they focused on those.
S&W 686 (top) and 686.Which would you want to carry?
FBI Academy Commemrotive 6-inch, of which I have two.
Ruger Speed-Six, 3-incher.
Blue Brick
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Pulled mine out this week. Ordered new grips and speed loader pouches.
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Mr.Revolverguy
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Literally missing a Speed Six 357Magnum to complete the six series for me
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Is that nice 3" Speed Six a 357? Maybe a GS-33 Postal Service Speed Six. My first Speed Six was a DAO NYCPD 3" in 38spl w/armorer's star stamped on the frame. It now wears the Pachmayr compacts like yours that tame 357s well. Great revolvers!
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KevininPa
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I don't miss any of the Six Series.
Because I have three! A bull barreled Speed at 2 3/4, stainless. A Security Six at 2 3/4, also stainless. The wife shoots that one. And a four inch Service Six.
The four inch is a beater. Has some sort of coating on it that's chipping. Got it cheap. Was considering selling it but Bannockburn talked me into sending it to Mahovsky Metalife for a hard chrome job. Maybe after Christmas.
As for the Six Series coming back? That's a big nope. Ruger has too much invested in the SP101 and the Boat Anchor 100. But I keep hoping that they'll come out with a polymer version with the cammed trigger of the LCRx. I have the 9mm version. Love it! Already sent an email to Ruger about it. Got a generic response. A few others here did as well. It would work well in 38,357,9mm in six shooters. A seven shot in .327. And lord knows what in .22.
I think that they're afraid to try it. Because they'll outsell the Boat Anchor 100. But it is time for a mid-sized Ruger.
Because I have three! A bull barreled Speed at 2 3/4, stainless. A Security Six at 2 3/4, also stainless. The wife shoots that one. And a four inch Service Six.
The four inch is a beater. Has some sort of coating on it that's chipping. Got it cheap. Was considering selling it but Bannockburn talked me into sending it to Mahovsky Metalife for a hard chrome job. Maybe after Christmas.
As for the Six Series coming back? That's a big nope. Ruger has too much invested in the SP101 and the Boat Anchor 100. But I keep hoping that they'll come out with a polymer version with the cammed trigger of the LCRx. I have the 9mm version. Love it! Already sent an email to Ruger about it. Got a generic response. A few others here did as well. It would work well in 38,357,9mm in six shooters. A seven shot in .327. And lord knows what in .22.
I think that they're afraid to try it. Because they'll outsell the Boat Anchor 100. But it is time for a mid-sized Ruger.
Had a 6" stainless.
Got rid of it.
Never cared for em, or the GP100.
Very different, but neither felt right for me, regardless of grip changes.
I find a Colt Python tolerable w Hogue rubber grips.
But overall, I much prefer S&W.
And I have seen Security Six guns, with cracked frames.
Neither was abused (one had very few shots, non magnums).
Eh, must have been a heat treat or assembly issue that caused it.
Happens to anybody.
Ruger warrantied them, with discount towards new GP.
Will admit, the Security Six look way better than the GP100
Got rid of it.
Never cared for em, or the GP100.
Very different, but neither felt right for me, regardless of grip changes.
I find a Colt Python tolerable w Hogue rubber grips.
But overall, I much prefer S&W.
And I have seen Security Six guns, with cracked frames.
Neither was abused (one had very few shots, non magnums).
Eh, must have been a heat treat or assembly issue that caused it.
Happens to anybody.
Ruger warrantied them, with discount towards new GP.
Will admit, the Security Six look way better than the GP100
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The Ruger Speed-Six began life as a .38Spc. (I bought two of them.) This was when I had an FFL, and at the time everyone wanted a .357, not a .38 Special. So I get them for next to nothing. I then took them to a great gunsmith in northern Virginia and he reamed them out to take .357s. He charged me $65 apiece. Nice fellow, but laconic and a bit temperamental.
BTW, what type of finish do you have on yours? Do you like DAO on your gun?
Ruger Speed-Six w/3-inch barrel.
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Ruger has done some awful looking things with the GP100 in recent years.
Whatever happened to classically styles double action revolvers? The new junk now looks more like an airsoft gun.
Whatever happened to classically styles double action revolvers? The new junk now looks more like an airsoft gun.
stonebuster
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Does your's have a star on the frame inside of crane like this? I ask because all the true 3" Speed Sixes were special contract some of which were 38spl DAO NYCPD guns stamped with the armorer's star like mine. The finish is a matte or bead blasted on my 38spl. I've seen a couple like it doing online searches. I believe it's original since the gun appeared to be unfired when I bought it. I like the DAO enough that I bought another hammer on ebay for my 2.75" 357 Speed Six and bobbed it. I installed a 10# mainspring and it's been 100% reliable. It's got the lightest, smoothest trigger of any of my revolvers.
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Were most of the speed six's in 38 special? I passed up on many 38specials because I wanted 357Mag to match the other two. Though this thread cost me some money as I could not pass up on this blued model though my heart still longs for a stainless 357Mag Speed Six.
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Nice collection! I believe most Speed sixes were in .357. I used to stay away from Six Series guns because Ruger doesn't support them anymore. I bought my first in 38 spl figuring it would be hard to wear out since it's the same gun as the 357 except for the chamber depth. Now I realize there's quite a few SS still in good shape after 40 years. Prices have really gone up in the past few months though.
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Lol! Prices are up on everything there bud!
Lol! Prices are up on everything there bud!
KevininPa
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Though the Six Series revolvers are going up more. Most I paid was $425 for a bull barrel stainless Speed Six. That model goes for more now.
Blue Brick
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Nice to know... Mine has a heavy barrel. GF-84.
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Pretty happy with this,https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?attachments/guns-001-jpg.135741/
2 3/4" 357 magnum.
2 3/4" 357 magnum.
JTHunter
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The Security Six was before my time and I never had a chance to compare them to the GP-100.
I have tried Taurus, Colt, and S&W .357s in various barrel lengths and found all of the 6" ones (including the GP-100) to be too nose heavy to hold comfortably. And the prices of the Colt and S&W turned me off, even for their shorter, better balanced .357s.
My hands take a "large" glove size but my fingers are relatively short. I found the 4" GP-100 fairly well balanced with a DA trigger pull of ~8 lbs and SA of ~2.5 lbs.
Is it a heavy gun? Yes, it is the heaviest handgun I have but it is also the largest caliber as well. I have a 6" Ruger .22 Single Six Convertible that is more nose heavy than the GP-100 but barely. Those rubberized grips make it easy to hold and shoot, even with my near MAX reloads. And my fingers seem to fit nicely in both the grooves and trigger. I got it about 8 years ago from a pawn shop and it was only about a year old then.
I have tried Taurus, Colt, and S&W .357s in various barrel lengths and found all of the 6" ones (including the GP-100) to be too nose heavy to hold comfortably. And the prices of the Colt and S&W turned me off, even for their shorter, better balanced .357s.
My hands take a "large" glove size but my fingers are relatively short. I found the 4" GP-100 fairly well balanced with a DA trigger pull of ~8 lbs and SA of ~2.5 lbs.
Is it a heavy gun? Yes, it is the heaviest handgun I have but it is also the largest caliber as well. I have a 6" Ruger .22 Single Six Convertible that is more nose heavy than the GP-100 but barely. Those rubberized grips make it easy to hold and shoot, even with my near MAX reloads. And my fingers seem to fit nicely in both the grooves and trigger. I got it about 8 years ago from a pawn shop and it was only about a year old then.
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Nope, mine are just .38 Spc revolvers that I had reamed to .357s. They have 3-inch barrels and people who see them keep trying to buy them. Ruger thinks it can just keep adding steel to their guns and people will just plunk their $$$ down and I reckon it's probably right. I saw a fellow on YouTube the other night and he said Ruger "upgraded" its Security-Sixes to GP-100s because he heard some of the Security-Sixes were "shooting" loose. Yeah, I heard that too...after about a million rounds! It's amazing the B.S. you hear when people can post anything they want. He probably heard it about S&W 19s and just assumed it was true about the Rugers as well.
One thing I don't like much about Rugers are the rear sights. I put Millett sights on as many of them as I could afford. You can use black magic markets to keep the worn parts black again. Black sights matter!
Don't think so. Probably all 3-inchers were. Most likely all the 2.75-inchers were .357.
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Bought mine new in 1978 as a hunting sidearm. Still old reliable.Mosin Bubba
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I haven't seen the Six revolvers at pawn shops or gun shows in a while. They're on my gun-buying shortlist, but the right one (or any one, really) hasn't found me yet.
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In contrast, I prefer the grip system on the GP100, because for me, the GP100 rubber short butt is the most comfortable DA revolver grip made. I'd would love to have a Security Six fitted with that GP100 grip.
Since that will never happen, I'll settle for my GP100 and my Police Service Six fitted with aftermarket Sile target grips.
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The GS-33-PS Speed Six special contract for the Postal Service is 3" in .357. There's two on GB right now. Other agencies had 357 3" Speed Sixes but all the 3" Speed Sixes whether 38 spl or 357 were special contract guns. So if yours is three inch it's not a gun offered to the general public by Ruger. Very nice, BTW.
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