Molon Labe

[SpartanWarriorXIII]

I've been searching the internet for awhile about this awesome phrase and I've seen that there has been quite some misconception about it. I do have questions though lol.

First of all, its literal translation is "having come, take." Which in plain modern English would be said as "come and take them." I see a lot of ppl saying it means "Come and Get them" and although that pretty much means the same thing "Come and Take them" would be the more accurate translation. Come and take them denotes a more hostile meaning as the phrase is meant to be taken. Come and get them sounds like we'll just give them to you when you come but come and take them shows we're not giving anything up easily. Second of all the correct spelling is this: ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ. I don't know why I see accent marks on some of the spellings but I'm almost sure this isn't original to the Greek phrase is it??? This is one of my favorite historical sayings and I just want to make sure I'm pronouncing it right so here we go.

Moe (as in the Stooge)
Lone (as in alone without the A)
La (as in hah but with a la
Vay (as in bay but with a V)

So thats what it sounds like to me Moe-lone La-Vay??? Right lol

And another random question to ask, does anyone know how to pronounce Dienekes??? The Spartan Officer from Thermopylae who made the comment about fighting in the shade. I've always wanted to find that out lol. I'm thinking about getting this as a tattoo. Any thoughts on that?? Thx a lot guys!!! Appreciate the answers and comments!!!

 

[gunNoob]

How many firearms do you own? I just think a tattoo would be suitable for the collectors with many many of them. You should use that money on another firearm instead

 

[JWarren]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molon_labe

The Greek phrase Molōn labe! (Μολὼν λάβε; approximate Classical Greek pronunciation [molɔ̀ːn labé], Modern Greek [moˈlon laˈve]), meaning "Come and take them!", is a classical expression of defiance reported by Plutarch in response to the Persian Army's demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons. It corresponds roughly to the modern equivalent English phrase "over my dead body". It is an exemplary use of a laconic phrase.

Ask... Receive.... No Problem.



-- John

 

[possom813]

Or use some the cash to join the NRA if you haven't done so already.

 

[Shung]

only 10 $ if you dont want the magazines !

MOLON LABE

 

[expvideo]

Moe (as in the Stooge)
Lone (as in alone without the A)
La (as in hah but with a la
Vay (as in bay but with a V)

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Ο is not Ω, and does not make the same sound. Also, the B is pronounced almost like a combination of B and V. Try to make a V sound but move your lips as if you were making a B sound. Usually we would use our upper teeth and lower lip to make a V sound. Instead, use both lips and no teeth, as if making a B sound.

Mah-Lone-La-(b)Vey

I'm thinking about getting this as a tattoo. Any thoughts on that??

My tattoo is of the inscription on the statue at Thermopylae.

Statue:

My tattoo:

 

[Shung]

nice tattoo expvideo !!! I wouldnt mind having the same on my shoulder I think !


(and as you are here, let me know that i share your opinion about morons claimin' that they were "cleaning" their guns when they accidently went off..)

 

[Nugilum]

A little humor (I think we all need some )

 

[SpartanWarriorXIII]

I own a total of 11 firearms. I have a 12 gauge (sawn off to the lowest legal limit), M1 Garand, Italian 6.5mm Carcano, .303 Enfield, Yugoslavian M59/66 SKS, Winchester .30-30, a .45 cal rifled musket, a classic .58 caliber smoothbore musket, two glocks one being a .45 and the other a 9mm and a little .380 Kel-Tec as a personal defense weapon. Thats my count lol. Does that classify me as a collector???

I have been thinking about joining the NRA but I'm shipping out for Basic in April and i figured I would join after I finished my enlistment in the Army. It's really only 10$??? I could do that and the tattoo lol and I'd probably end up getting the magazine too... how much would that cost???

So its actually a mah instead of a moe sound??? And yes I was aware of the Omega as the second O so how does that change the sound??? It wouldn't sound like alone without the A then??? How would that sound??? Sorry for all the questions just curious haha... Thx for the answers though.

Thats an awesome tattoo!!! Thats almost exactly the one I want to get and I would get it in almost the exact same spot except I would have it going across my back but in an arc. Like the handgun too Nice touch

Lmao I've never seen that one before. I love those things too lol. Thx for the humor, you can never have enough nowadays I like the first quote in your sig too lmao. I personally love bayonets. Have one for my M1 and my SKS has a permanent folding one underneath the barrel.

Thx for all the responses guys!!!, now I just gotta nail this pronunciation thing

 

[JWarren]

I've nothing against tattoos. It would be kinda hard for me to, since I have a couple.


But remember this. That tattoo would say make your view known. Joining any RKBA organizations would actually be DOING something to back that view up.


Let's all put our actions behind our words. Get the tat. And then put a check in the mail to the NRA.



-- John

 

[Shung]

only 10 $ for associate membership.. did it 10 days ago ! go for it ! (I would have taken the magazines if it didnt costed more because of my location)

 

[garyhan]

I got the molone lave tattoo on the day the Heller decision was passed down. My first tattoo at age 57. I agree that if you are not an NRA member, don't have the guns you want, or have not otherwise contributed to the cause, money might better be spent that way. However since I'm endowment NRA and am approaching three figures of guns owned, I am very happy with my decision to get the tat. It certainly shows a serious commitment to permanently display your feelings in this manner.

gary

 

[expvideo]

I've nothing against tattoos. It would be kinda hard for me to, since I have a couple.


But remember this. That tattoo would say make your view known. Joining any RKBA organizations would actually be DOING something to back that view up.


Let's all put our actions behind our words. Get the tat. And then put a check in the mail to the NRA.



-- John

Really? Join the NRA? Is that how you are "fighting" for your rights? With a checkbook? Go train a new shooter. Convert an anti. Email your senator. Actively campaign for pro-gun politicians. Don't tell me that I'm not fighting for my gun rights just because I haven't sent my $10 to the NRA. Checks are nice, but they are not action. If all you've done for your gun rights is to send a check to the NRA, then I have put MUCH more action behind my words than you ever have.

 

[KINGMAX]

I already have it

I already have that TAT on my right arm!!!!!!!!!

 

[K3]

Really? Join the NRA? Is that how you are "fighting" for your rights? With a checkbook? Go train a new shooter. Convert an anti. Email your senator. Actively campaign for pro-gun politicians. Don't tell me that I'm not fighting for my gun rights just because I haven't sent my $10 to the NRA. Checks are nice, but they are not action. If all you've done for your gun rights is to send a check to the NRA, then I have put MUCH more action behind my words than you ever have.

Perhaps decaf would have been a better choice for you this morning.

 

[harmonic]

Be careful the phrase doesn't become a mere cliche.

I've known a few truly tough guys in my life. One was a Marine who was wounded in the Pacific theatre in WW2. One was a two tour Green Beret Captain circa Vietnam. One was a Navy Seal.

None of these guys talked about what they did or were willing to do. Actually, now that I think about it, none of these guys talked much at all.

Then again, I've known a lot of guys who talked a lot about how tough they were. But the times I got to see them when the chips were down, they didn't back up their words.

My conclusion? Truly tough/dangerous guys don't advertise.

 

[scrat]

No tats but for sure {molon labe}

 

[Corporal K]

My conclusion? Truly tough/dangerous guys don't advertise.

You nailed it, especially on blogs.

 

[yeti]

Stop talking smack about us self promoting tough guys.

I'm a tough guy and announce it proudly.

I'm so tough, I eat aluminum cans for supper!
And deposit FORGED AR lowers after breakfast!





(not pokin' a stick in anyone's eye, the cans for supper and forged lowers after breakfast just struck me funny)

 

[expvideo]

Be careful the phrase doesn't become a mere cliche.

I've known a few truly tough guys in my life. One was a Marine who was wounded in the Pacific theatre in WW2. One was a two tour Green Beret Captain circa Vietnam. One was a Navy Seal.

None of these guys talked about what they did or were willing to do. Actually, now that I think about it, none of these guys talked much at all.

Then again, I've known a lot of guys who talked a lot about how tough they were. But the times I got to see them when the chips were down, they didn't back up their words.

My conclusion? Truly tough/dangerous guys don't advertise.

I'm really confused. Who was claiming to be tough? Because if you were refering to me, you obviously misunderstood my post and you should read it again.

 

[harmonic]

Instead, use both lips and no teeth

Now you're talking about people who go to Willie Nelson concerts.

As in, "What's 40 feet long and has two teeth?" Answer: the front row of a Willie Nelson concert.

 

[BacSi67]

I'm of Greek descent. Take it from me, both the Omicron and the Omega are both pronounced as an abrupt O, and yes, the B is pronounced like the letter V.
John

 

[JWarren]

Really? Join the NRA? Is that how you are "fighting" for your rights? With a checkbook? Go train a new shooter. Convert an anti. Email your senator. Actively campaign for pro-gun politicians. Don't tell me that I'm not fighting for my gun rights just because I haven't sent my $10 to the NRA. Checks are nice, but they are not action. If all you've done for your gun rights is to send a check to the NRA, then I have put MUCH more action behind my words than you ever have.

If that is all you got out of my post, you utterly missed the entire point. Your arguementative tone suggests that you either have something against the NRA or me personally.

If it is the former, great. join something another organization-- or a few. The efforts you mentioned are applaudable, and are critical, but don't pretend that simply converting people actually translates seamlessly into governmental influence. Surely, you are not so nieve that you believe that converts alone will matter. The people's consent hasn't been a deciding factor in a long time. No...Lobbying is king. Powerful organizations get in the door.

You would be in error to believe that the whole of my activites was contained in one post on "da intrawebz."

Now, if it is the latter... well, knock yourself out. I've had a long day and I just simply don't have enough concern to justify the expense of effort to uncover the issue. Feel free to PM me with any issue you have with me. I'll answer if it seems valid.


-- John

 

[Walkalong]

unbelievable

 

[.38 Special]

Be careful the phrase doesn't become a mere cliche.

Way, way, way too late for that. Molon labe? You may as well just attach some plastic testicles to the trailer hitch on your F150, get your mom to touch up your flat top, take one of the flashlights off your accessory rail, and go hang out with the rest of the trick-or-treaters at Wal-Mart.