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Was anybody buying them when they were $400?
Even when they were $79 I felt better served by a H&R 12 gauge....
I bought one when they were $49. I don't think it was really a bargain.
Was anybody buying them when they were $400?
Even when they were $79 I felt better served by a H&R 12 gauge....
I bought one when they were $49. I don't think it was really a bargain.
I recall buying one at an estate sale a couple-few years ago that did not have a bolt. I figured it would either show up in one of the boxes or, I'd simply find one at a gun show or order one.Was anybody buying them when they were $400?
Even when they were $79 I felt better served by a H&R 12 gauge....
This is a big reason why collectibles are generally a good hedge but not a huge money maker compared with other investments.
I can tell you right now that giving away an axis can be some work......Will it be the spare parts value? Will these new rifles become collectable? Will there be a dedicated Ruger American collector someday that has to have all of the cartridges etc., Will someone brag about their low cost Remingtons or Savage Axis ? Or, will these simply reflect the depreciated cost of new rifles that have gotten banged up etc. AR's, especially parts made, have a similar issue--I suspect that the folks best get their value out of their high price accessories by shooting them as I doubt that the sum of the parts used will bring the price that was paid for them new. Ditto for the polymer handguns in mass production: Glocks, M&P polymers, Walthers, etc
I can tell you right now that giving away an axis can be some work......
I doubt there will ever be a collectors rush to on the cheaper rifles of today. There IS something of a collectors market for old cheap guns tho, so hey i could be wrong lol.
ARs I think may turn into a bit of a collectors market. Stuff like early colts, and some of the premium or unusual complete rifles, may become collectible. I can see specific PARTS as becoming collectibles.
here,s a pretty hard to find finnish rifle as only a couple thousand were made(not made up later), double rear sling slots for ski-bicycle use.
Then you also got those guns that DO develop a following like the Remington 788s, Sav/Stevens 340s. Not exactly highend collectibles, but you can buy a new cheap gun for less than you can get a decent 788 or 340.Interesting. I do know that decommissioned AR parts from Colt, etc. when they go on sale at places like Sarco, sell out quickly at higher prices. So you may be right.
The other stuff, like old cheap top break .32 short revolvers, store name shotguns or vanished brands like Noble, single shot Smiths, etc. don't seem to be bringing much despite being sometimes over 100 years old. Maybe that is where the Axis rifles in the future lie but the difference is that many of those aforementioned firearms would be of dubious safety whereas ones made of modern steel since the 40's or 50's, at least, absent abuse, should still be safe to fire. Have to ask my pawn shop buddies about these.
Cabela's prices around here are excessively high.They're still $400 at Cabela's in Fort Mill, SC as of a few weeks ago, and most of my local small gunshops dont usually even have 91/30s
That would be the gentleman who posted post #14, and yes he likes Finn M-39's.One of the coolest things I've ever seen is that family on *Life Below Zero* subsistence hunting with surplus Mosins and ammo. Now THAT is Mosin-cool!
Interesting. I do know that decommissioned AR parts from Colt, etc. when they go on sale at places like Sarco, sell out quickly at higher prices. So you may be right.
The other stuff, like old cheap top break .32 short revolvers, store name shotguns or vanished brands like Noble, single shot Smiths, etc. don't seem to be bringing much despite being sometimes over 100 years old. Maybe that is where the Axis rifles in the future lie but the difference is that many of those aforementioned firearms would be of dubious safety whereas ones made of modern steel since the 40's or 50's, at least, absent abuse, should still be safe to fire. Have to ask my pawn shop buddies about these.
Actually the .30-30 340's are the only ones that command a premium. It used to be because they were excellent first rifles for kids in a fairly mild round. Now I have no idea why they go for what they do.I come across those on auction sites and lgs that I frequent. Have to take a closer look at them although I am not really a hunting rifle kinda guy but I like innovative actions. The Savage 340 that I saw at an LGS was a .30-30 and priced pretty high. But .30-30 bolt actions are kinda rare if you can find one at all. Haven't really looked at the 788 at all and so I looked it up and they are also a pretty innovative bolt design with a rear locking design and multiple bolt lugs. From what I read, Remington also made a .30-30 in it. I reload for my level action when I shoot it rarely so might be worth a look see. Thanks Loonwulf--at least on one of these, it is parts fixing on a smaller scale if anything needs to be done. Neat rifles.
lol yep, on gun broker right now 17 pages of Mosin for sale, one guy has two pages of listings himself with at least a $350.00 starting price PLUS they expect you to pay the shipping also and don't forget the transfer fee also.Basically the dealers/importers priced themselves out of the market
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Easy enough to simply ask or do a quick search. Caribou posts fairly regularly on here. He has always struck my as a down to Earth guy before I ever watched an episode of their show.I think the rifle used in life below zero is finn m-39. the finns took a Russian mosin and remodled it into a fine rifle. top rifle is a finn m-39, bottom rifle is a Russian m-91. on the last photo the topis a m-91 and the bottom is a finn m-39.