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Just got my Mosin and I've shot it out in the desert a couple times with some surplus ammo but I was wondering if there is any cheapish plinking ammo that isn't corrosive. As fun as my Mosin is I would like to shoot it without worrying about cleaning right away. Any thoughts?
 
newglockguy said:
Just got my Mosin and I've shot it out in the desert a couple times with some surplus ammo but I was wondering if there is any cheapish plinking ammo that isn't corrosive. As fun as my Mosin is I would like to shoot it without worrying about cleaning right away. Any thoughts?
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For non corrosive you will be buying either Wolf or something like Privi Partizan. It definitely kills the cheap plinker aspect of it. Definitely worth the money to just clean it after every time you shoot it.
 
Probably wolf or silver bear for around $10 a box of twenty is the cheapest you'll find.

It's a battle rifle, a mosin will be alright if you let it sit a short time. A lot of guys today obsess way too much over corrosive ammo. If you're in a hurry and won't get back to it for an extended period of time, dump some water down the bore, run a couple of dry patches through, and then an oiled patch. Just takes a couple of minutes.
 
The cheapest ammo listed as non-corrosive that I've seen is Wolf 148 grain... but its still close to 50 cents per round. If you wanna shoot your Mosin with corrosive and feel like postponing a cleaning just shoot some WD40 down the bore. That'll keep the corrosive salts in the bore from attracting moisture and preventing rusting. Should be good for at least a couple of days.
 
Just make sure you run a good amount of Windex down the barrel and firing pin channel after you shoot, and enjoy the cheap corrosive ammo.
 
The Mosin fired corrosive ammo all its life. It's okay to keep feeding it that way.
^^^ What he said. Your not going to hurt that Mosin one bit by shooting corrosive ammo. Just clean it when you get the chance. I'm sure it's been through a lot tougher times then you'll ever put it through.
 
Well... unless "when you get the chance" is a week later in a humid climate LOL In the desert you probably have a little time, but the longer you leave it the more you have to clean. I blast it with MPro spray at the range, then scour it that night. Takes a few minutes. And I wipe down the bolt face with Mpro spray. It's been working like a charm for many years now.
 
There's likely not a lot of humid air around Tempe AZ. So likely you're overly worried about corrosion.

But ya know what?..... If you take along a rod and jag with some patches and some Windex or even lightly soaped water along with some gun oil you can patch three wet patches thru the bore until they are only lightly grey then one dry patch and one oiled patch and one more dry patch and you're done and ready to shoot next time. If all this takes you more than 5 to 7 minutes than you're loafing and chatting with the other shooters to the point of total distraction.

Having said all that if you SHOULD try some Privi or other brand ammo you'll likely not want to shoot the surplus stuff any more. I was SHOCKED at how much smaller my groups were when I shot some Privi. It was the trip hammer that has got me to gather up the reloading supplies for 7.62x54R and make my own ammo.

These home loads are going to cost darn near the same as my surplus. OK maybe a couple to 5 cents more per round. But if I can reload ammo that works as well as the Privi I'll be looking at a shrink of my groups from 8 to 10 inches at 100 yards down to around 3 inches. To me THAT IS PLINKING BABY ! ! ! !

It seems that many of these cheap surplus rifles are capable of far more than we give them credit for. But if you want that sort of performance you need to feed it good ammo.

Oh, getting back on topic as you can see my home loaded ammo will barely cost more than the corrosive surplus stuff.
 
Corrosive ammo or not, cleaning a firearm is part of shooting it.

Corrosive ammos only extra step is to dissolve and flush the corrosive salts left in the barrel from the primer. Boiling water dissolves and rinses, as well as dries itself, and the rest is the same as non corrosive priming.

If you don't want to clean a rifle after shooting it, buy a BB gun. Any powder burning power'd Gun should be cleaned with out hesitation and to make it ready for the next use.........
 
wolf is about the cheapest you can get, bear gets rather spendy for what you get and that I know of there is no Tula brand 7.62x54R.
 
I do the same as Cosmoline. I use either Mpro or prolix spray and then clean it when I get a chance. Those Russians carried those things for months at a time and I have a hard time believing that they got a lot of chances to do more than squirt a little oil down the barrel and wipe it out occasionally.
 
newglockguy said:
Just got my Mosin and I've shot it out in the desert a couple times with some surplus ammo but I was wondering if there is any cheapish plinking ammo that isn't corrosive. As fun as my Mosin is I would like to shoot it without worrying about cleaning right away. Any thoughts?
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It's a $100 gun. Shoot whatever and just clean it within a couple of days.
 
I have been shooting my Mosin with Surplus corrosive ammo for a while. No problems.

When I first got my Mosin, I did what I thought was a good cleaning, using Hoppes 9 bore cleaner. I was shooting 6" shot groups at best and getting frustrated at my $100 rifle. I went to my Gun Club and talked to a few of the Old Timers, They gave me a can of WWII GI issue (labeld Poison) bore cleaner. I went home and cleaned as they stated. I am now shooting 1" to 2" shot groups at 100yds. Not just clean, but clean with something that will take the 50 years of crud out of the barrel. Now I clean it when i can and keep it oiled. Run a patch soaked in Hot water thru the barrel after using corrosive ammo then oil. That will clean and maintain it for a while. My 2 cents worth. Lefty
 

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wolf is about the cheapest you can get, bear gets rather spendy for what you get and that I know of there is no Tula brand 7.62x54R.
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This kind of Tula?

http://www.surplusammo.com/copy-of-7-62x54r-148-grain-fmj-tulammo-200-rounds/

It's over $0.50 per, but it shoots pretty well. I still shoot lots of surplus, but started reloading for it last fall.

Being in the desert makes life a little easier when it comes to corrosive ammo, but you still need to clean the rifle within a couple of days... as long as you're not cooling the house with a swamp cooler. We've taken as many as 12 of my rifles ( a mix of mosins and mausers ) shooting and shot all of them with corrosive ammo of one flavor or another. It took me a week to get to all of them, but they were all fine. If I were somewhere humid, I would have cleaned them immediately.

There's nothing magic about windex, but it works. I still prefer hot water to clean it out. You're just dissolving potassium chloride and rinsing it out of the bore. Hot water dries itself very quickly and leaves the bore ready for normal cleaning.

Matt

ETA: to add to what Lefty said, get the bore as clean as possible to start out with. He uses the GI bore cleaner. I prefer Gunslick foaming bore cleaner. One of my mosins had a sewer-pipe bore and I didn't think it was possible to get it clean. I scrubbed it eight ways to sunday and it was still lousy. Two applications of the foaming bore cleaner and it shines nicely. Not a new bore, but I didn't know that there could be that much gunk in a bore and have the rifle still shoot.
 
If you shop at academy they carry their Monarch brand of 7.62x54r that's not corrosive. Its a 185 grain FMJ with the lacquer coated steel case. Very similar, if not just a re-branded Barnaul. The same people that make silver bear, brown bear etc...

This stuff in my particular mosins shoots about the same as the Yugo light ball I have cases of, but at $10 a box the monarch/wolf/barnaul variants are 3 times more than surplus. So, I shoot the surplus and clean as most have suggested above. Don't get too obsessed with cleaning, it's simple to take care of corrosive ammo "salts" that do the damage.
 
If you are going to squirt WD40, hot water or other stuff down a firearm barrel I strongly suggest you store the weapon bore down, so all the drips go on the floor and not into the action and stock area etc.

this is just a friendly suggestion!

Bull
 
Just pour water down the bore, then wipe with some patches, and oil the bore with a wet patch.

That's how I do it on my $100 Mosin, and it works well. No rust so far!
 
Bull Nutria said:
If you are going to squirt WD40, hot water or other stuff down a firearm barrel I strongly suggest you store the weapon bore down, so all the drips go on the floor and not into the action and stock area etc.

this is just a friendly suggestion!

Bull
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That's why you use hot water. Almost boiling hot water. Nothing left to drip. When cleaning is finished, the bore and chamber are coated with a nice thin film of oil, no different than my other non-corrosive-shooting rifles. (Or grease, if I know I'm not going to be shooting that particular gun for a while).

Regardless of what you use to rinse out the corrosive salts, it's always is followed by a normal cleaning.

Matt
 
Just got a spam can of surplus from Aimsurplus.com $89 + $20 shipping, only took a week to get AND they threw in a can opener. :D
 
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