Mosin carbine, the rifle with a BOOM! lol

[lionking]

ha ha yesterday tried out my M38 or the first time in a long time, everybody at the range shooting their AR and whatnot going pew pew pew....

So busted out the M38 to test some ammo, not my most accurate Mosin, but BOOM! BOOM! everyone around came walking over going DANG! what is that? lol

Do you like the flame that comes out? ha ha

Got a weird stringing group with the MFS ammo, best group with the Prvi 182 gr, nest time gotta move the front sight a tad, shooting a bit to the left.

rifle pic is from when I went out a while ago, yesterday the range was packed now that people are coming out again though COVID is still around

fun gun though lol
View attachment 923211
View attachment 923213
View attachment 923214
View attachment 923215

 

[brunowbe]

Love my Mosins. My M44 is my favorite one to shoot, just like your M38 it creates beautiful fireballs! BOOM!

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Mosin Carbine - the rifle with a BOOM lol

You sir are a master of understatement.

When I shoot my Mosin carbine in the military matchs, other shooters will stare in awe at the display of orange fireball at the muzzle and comment afterwards.

It's a Chinese Type 53 clone of the Russian 1944 Mosin, slightly thicker barrel than the 1938, but very similar.

 

[dh1633pm]

I have a Hungarian M44. Love that fireball!

 

[troy fairweather]

Did you ever slug the barrel, I've had a few m38 and m44 and they shot pretty good.

 

[Sistema1927]

Shooting that will certainly get others to "social distance" at the range. I enjoy my 91/59 carbine, but others don't.

 

[ZGunner]

Yup, my M44 is definitely one of my louder guns. It’s a good size and mine happens to be a decent shooter. I traded a Mossberg .17HMR for it. I’m fairly certain the guy thought he was getting one over on me because the gun wouldn’t extract a spent case and it was in rough shape. I broke it down, turned the extractor around the proper way, hit the metal with some Rustoleum flat black, and refinished the stock and it has been a great gun for almost a decade now.

 

[teddybear1848]

if its shooting to the left try fixing the bayonet.

 

[Sneakshot92]

Mosin Carbine - the rifle with a BOOM lol

You sir are a master of understatement.

When I shoot my Mosin carbine in the military matchs, other shooters will stare in awe at the display of orange fireball at the muzzle and comment afterwards.

It's a Chinese Type 53 clone of the Russian 1944 Mosin, slightly thicker barrel than the 1938, but very similar.

I have one as well. Sure makes people turn and look. Especially when I tough off a couple rounds of what I was told was sniper ammo. Berdan primed brass case with yellow bullet tips. Lotsa bite to go with the bark.

 

[Merle1]

yellow tip "usually" means heavy ball, about 180 grains - silver tip means light ball, around 150 grains....

 

[whm1974]

So what is the barrel length of these Mosin Carbines, 17", 18" to get these big fireballs?

 

[eastbank]

i have several of the carbine 44,s, i load them down to 30-30+ speeds and they do quite well with the down loads.

 

[ifit]

Had a M38 years ago....definately a Boom stick

 

[Dibbs]

Keep mine for hog hunting, in thick brush. Literally a "Pig Sticker".

 

[22250Rem]

I've seen Mosin carbines fired at the range and decided that those things should have a little more barrel length. Back in the late 1960's one of my buddies picked up one of those el-cheapo Mosin 91/30's that were sold real cheap out of a barrel full and looked like they had been through both world wars with no refurbishment. He cut the barrel down to an almost illegal length and it became known as the "Muzzleblast Special". What a combination of flamethrower and concussion grenade that thing was. The carbines are bad but this was even worse. Forget what the barrel length of my unmodified 91/30 is but I'd never go any shorter than that. I do reload 7.62x54R and if I had a carbine it would definitely be getting some 30-30 level handloads like eastbank mentioned.

 

[dh1633pm]

Nothing like the bang of a short barreled Nagant. Even more so at the end of the day just before dark.

 

[Sneakshot92]

I've seen Mosin carbines fired at the range and decided that those things should have a little more barrel length. Back in the late 1960's one of my buddies picked up one of those el-cheapo Mosin 91/30's that were sold real cheap out of a barrel full and looked like they had been through both world wars with no refurbishment. He cut the barrel down to an almost illegal length and it became known as the "Muzzleblast Special". What a combination of flamethrower and concussion grenade that thing was. The carbines are bad but this was even worse. Forget what the barrel length of my unmodified 91/30 is but I'd never go any shorter than that. I do reload 7.62x54R and if I had a carbine it would definitely be getting some 30-30 level handloads like eastbank mentioned.

The standard 91/30 has either a 27 or 29 inch barrel. I forget which.

 

[Sneakshot92]

Nothing like the bang of a short barreled Nagant. Even more so at the end of the day just before dark.

Especially with experimental range loads.
Think pistol/shotgun powders behind lightish weight cast boolits.

 

[22250Rem]

Too lazy to dig it out of the safe and measure right now but 7.62x54r.net gives specs for just about all Mosins including carbines. They have the Soviet 91/30 listed as a 28 & 3/4" barrel, so you were pretty much right on, and various carbine models are listed as short as 20 & 1/4"..... Wow... No wonder they produce those fireballs with ammo designed for those longer barrels.

 

[AMraider]

Years ago I was shooting at my local range in February after a sizeable snowfall. After each round from my M44 piles of snow would slide off the roof in front of me. A fun way to clear snow!

 

[Paul R Zartman]

Nothing like the bang of a short barreled Nagant. Even more so at the end of the day just before dark.

I have a pitted mosin that I cut back and Sportsterized to save the gun, 23" and a tack driver...and attention getter for sure at the range...flash suppressor does no good on this beast, but is the best, and most awesome rifle I have ever shot.

 

[FL-NC]

Best bayonet handle EVER.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

So what is the barrel length of these Mosin Carbines, 17", 18" to get these big fireballs?

I measured the barrel length of my Chinese Type 53 clone of the Russian M1944 carbine at 20.5" the ATF way (metal cleaning rod from muzzle to closed breechface). Some reference works give 20.2" for the Russian carbine. (And I've seen people measure barrel length from the front pf the receiver to the muzzle which ignores the part of the barrel inside the receiver.)

The 91/30 rifle barrel length was standardized at 29 inches in 1930.* I have one and it does not give a fireball with the Bulgarian 183gr heavyball yellowtip 7.62x54R like the Type 53 does. It seems to me though, that the rifle barrels are slimmer than the carbine barrels and both guns balance about the same, shouldering them with eyes closed it's hard to tell the difference.

* Before the standardization, there were several rifle barrel lengths for submodels of the Mosin in the variius services within the Russian military. Unfortunately for gun collectors the Russian military reworked a lot of the longer barrel models to the 91/30 standard with new sights and stocks.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

New Nothing like the bang of a short barreled Nagant. Even more so at the end of the day just before dark.

Oh yes, it is especially noticeable in the dusk before sunset. The firing line for our military matches is roofed against rain and snow, so we have a sort perpetual dusk all day, but Mosin carbine before sundown is a special private fireworks display. Big grins. With certain loads of 7.62x25 my CZ52 pistol makes a fireball too.

 

[hdbiker]

I bought my mint 1946 Mosin #44 at a yard sale about 5 years ago for 75.00 bucks, kicks hard, loud, fireball but on a good day I can hold a 5 inch group at 100 yards from the bench. LOL hdbiker