Mosin Nagant - Am I the only one who does NOT like these?

Mosin - Love, Like or Leave?

  • Love the Mosin - will not be without at least one.

    Votes: 131 36.3%

  • Like the Mosin - take it or leave it.

    Votes: 141 39.1%

  • Leave it - nothing good to say about it.

    Votes: 89 24.7%
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    361
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Quoheleth

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I keep seeing thread after thread of Mosin Nagant love.

I just don't get it. Yeah, it was cheap to own and shoot, but that was the only thing it had going for it. And, yes - I am speaking from first-hand experience. Owned one, hated it.

The stock didn't fit me.
The bolt was incredibly hard to work.
Trigger pull was approximately 30 pounds.
Accuracy was minute-of-pizza box at 25 yards.
Gun kicked like a constipated mule. Yeah, call me a weenie but my arm twitched for 2 days after 40 rounds.

Mosin Nagant owner jokes aside (http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm) and unless you consider it a personal howitzer, I have to ask...am I the only one who doesn't care for this gun, no matter how cheap it is?

Q
 
No, there is at least one other person.
Me!

I first fooled with one in 1960 something.

Didn't like them then, and I still don't.

Course, there were an awful lot of cheap 03A3 Springfield's and 98 Mauser's to like better back then too.

rc
 
I can assure you if there were still those cheap Springfield's and Mauser's to be had, the Mossy phenomena would not be a blip on the radar today.

rc
 
Cheap to own, cheap to shoot, powerful cartridge, and look good in both traditional and sporter configurations. I like 'em.
 
I don't love em, but there is little to hate about them. Cheap rifle cheap ammo big boom. I understand the appeal. Just not for me.

There are better guns to hate on ;)
 
I'm just not a fan. They feel like such crude rifles to me (which is what they are for the most part). Especially after acquiring rifles such as a k98 and a k31...the mosin will rarely ever leave the safe. The joy of shooting the other rifles just far outclasses it...IMO.
 
I've never even seen a M-N but I was considering buying one because of all the love/lust shown them on THR plus how inexpensive they are. Thank goodness I saw this thread because I hate wasting my money... so little of it to waste.
 
I own one, but it's far from my favorite rifle. The bolt on mine is pretty smooth, the stock fits me pretty well, and non corrosive ammo is cheap compared to other similar power rounds. However, the trigger pull on mine feels like it's a couple inches long and it's not all that light. The gun itself is overly long and heavy, and though I haven't had much chance to test accuracy, I know it's not a tack driver.

I still like the gun though. It's a piece of history that likely saw some time on a battlefield somewhere sometime. It only costs me $75, and it came with all the accessories that would have been issued to a soldier. If it was all I had, it would probably work just fine with a little practice and effort on my part.
 
whats not to like about a $85 rifle that fires an inexpensive full sized rifle cartridge?
Not all of them are winners but thats what handpicking is for.
 
I'm not seeing any for $85 anymore... more like $125+++. Once shipping and FFL are added that's about $175+++. If these are "all that" then the extra few dollars spent for a more modern rifle is well spent. Again, I'm ignorant about these but, superficially and from the outside, I'm skeptical.
 
I collect the things, but I'll be the first to admit that it's not the most refined design in the world. But consider its origins - late 19th century Russia. It predates the Mauser and Lee-Enfield actions that are the standard by which all others are measured, and it also came from a much less developed industrial base. It's not fancy. It was made for peasants, by peasants. It's a soldier-proof rifle. Those are virtues. From a collector standpoint, the infinite variation (and low prices) are also attractive.

As for these...

The stock didn't fit me.

Not much we can do about that one.

The bolt was incredibly hard to work.

They can be. A good cleaning helps - try scrubbing the chamber with a 20-gauge shotgun brush mounted to your power drill. Several decades' worth of cosmoline is hard to remove.

Trigger pull was approximately 30 pounds.

I find that hard to believe, unless there was something wrong with your rifle.

Accuracy was minute-of-pizza box at 25 yards.

Yeah, but that pizza box will never menace the Revolution again! Some are better than others. I wouldn't call any of them tack drivers but some of mine are pretty good.

Gun kicked like a constipated mule. Yeah, call me a weenie but my arm twitched for 2 days after 40 rounds.

Weenie. ;-) Comrade, it's a battle rifle. They kick. It's part of their charm. And if you think a Mosin kicks, try a Springfield '03.
 
I really like mine. Its not the smoothest but it shoots a cheap powerful round and its a cheap rifle. I also really love the history behind them. For $75 can't go wrong in my opinion.
 
The OP isn't about "collectibility" nor "nostalgia". It was about "practicality". Some say the M-N isn't practical given other newer options. And... again... when's the last time we saw one for $75-85, especially a guaranteed decent one?
 
i saw racks upon racks at last gunshow for $100-$120. Getting one shipped to you is pointless because, your right, the extra charges double its price. However, if your ordering it along with some other items it will cut down on shipping and if you got a C&R license you can skip the ffl.

its still hard to not be able to find for a reasonable price
 
Its an antique design reminiscent of the late 19 th century. It started back in as the Mosin 1891 rifle. Then saw action in WW 1 and the Russian Revolution. Then improved to the M 91 30 configuration. Then it was called again in defending Stalingrad, and finally into Berlin in the final battle. Then came the Korean conflict although not in the hands of Soviet troops but CHicom and NKs. Then into the Vietnam War. Then in the 1980s they were still used by Afghan mujahadeens against the Soviets. And i have no doubt some are still being used today to fight us in Afghanistan. It ugly and cheap but thats just the way it is. Its getting more popular now as recession hits every corner of America. Whts not to like than the power of the 54 R.
 
The kick never bothered me, then again I regularly shoot slugs with my 12 gauge.

I had one but sold it to my brother and used the money to buy an 870.
 
I have plenty of em and love them.
Cheap by no means, the word "Bargin" is more like it.
If you learnto shoot properly, theres no pain in the shoulder accuracy's awsome, and its a rock solid system.
Heck, if its filthy, it even lets you know by having to use alot more to work the bolt.

Only accuarte rifles are interesting.

Mosins are VERY interesting.
 
I bought a Hungarian M44 for $49.00 just to see what all the fuss was about. I guess I'm not sorry for spending the 49$ but I wouldn't buy another one even for half the price. They are definitely not my type of rifle. I like mausers and as for being powerful as someone said earlier; my Model 70 Featherweight in 308 is a better gun/cartridge combination. Come to think about it, my Rolling Block in 43 Spanish is a better combination. No more MN's for me. Now I might accept a '95 Winchester in 7.62X54R, nice gun but I've only seen one of them in my life.
 
The stock didn't fit me.
The bolt was incredibly hard to work.
Trigger pull was approximately 30 pounds.
Accuracy was minute-of-pizza box at 25 yards.
Gun kicked like a constipated mule. Yeah, call me a weenie but my arm twitched for 2 days after 40 rounds.
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I really like mine i picked up at buds. It really needs the one inch rubber butt pad to make it feel natural. I may have gotten lucky but my trigger is a little heavy but very smooth. The kick is the best part, comparable to 12g IMHO.
-TJ
 
I don't know about anybody else but I honestly don't think they are that ugly. No they're not pretty but they look sort of cool, to me at least.
 
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